Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-04-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 31, 2013, at 13:22 , Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Outlook/Exchange is far and away the best email / calendar / task software I've ever used, I've just got to interject and say that, in all the years I've been in IT and as long as Outlook has existed, I've NEVER heard anyone say

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-04-01 Thread mike wilson
On 31/03/2013 15:25, Christine Aguila wrote: iCloud engineers There's a job spec. I would like to read. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-04-01 Thread lrc
Note the date. Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Mar 31, 2013, at 13:22 , Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Outlook/Exchange is far and away the best email / calendar / task software I've ever used, I've just got to interject and say that, in all the years I've been in IT and as

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-04-01 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:04 PM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 31/03/2013 15:25, Christine Aguila wrote: iCloud engineers Bit of an oxymoron, that. There's a job spec. I would like to read. Well, _someone_ should have. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment, and transferring various bits and pieces off the Thinkpad notebook I've been

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Derby Chang
I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of the departed software head Scott Forstall http://venturebeat.com/2012/10/30/skeuomorphic-design-or-one-reason-we-can-be-thankful-scott-forstall-is-gone/ Maybe in

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
You're right. Apple apps are tacky looking. I hadn't really thought about it. I just use them and like the way they work. I can add a contact on my phone and it shows up immediately on both of my computers. Same thing with notes, reminders, and calendar entries. For us oldsters, it's nice to

RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of the departed software head Scott Forstall

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:36 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You're right. Apple apps are tacky looking. I hadn't really thought about it. I just use them and like the way they work. I can add a contact on my phone and it shows up immediately on both of my computers. Same

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Sorenson
Do a search in the App Store for Calendars by Readdle. They have a free one and another for about 3USD. Readdle seems to make good apps and the customer service is great. -p Sent from my iPad On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I bought an iPad yesterday, which

RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread John Sessoms
Meanwhile, at Microsoft ... http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6855756_700b.jpg From: Bob W From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang I can't answer your question, Bob. But that skeuomorphism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph) was a particular fetish of

RE: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
Readdle does sync with, because I'm trying not let this stuff proliferate across different providers. B -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson Sent: 31 March 2013 15:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Larry Colen
On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:38 AM, Bob W wrote: I bought an iPad yesterday, which is the first Apple product I've ever owned, although I've used a few over the years, especially when they went wrong for non-computer-literate friends. I'm setting it up at the moment, and transferring various bits

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 31/3/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Well, the syncing is nice when the cloud is working. My iCloud space has recently gone wonky and the iCloud engineers are supposedly working on it right now. I'm supposed to get a call from Apple in a few hours. Hopefully, this will be

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Bob W
If you use the cloud for business purposes you should make sure you have a service level agreement with the provider that defines their responsibilities for backing up, restoring after a failure, disaster recovery and business continuity, withi independent evidence at least annually that they

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't rely on iCloud for file backup or storage. I like it in that it syncs my contacts and calendars, but the data is stored on at least one of my machines. Using internet servers to sync all your machines is great. Using them for storage or even backup is not something I want to experiment

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: A day or two later the contacts reappeared and all was well. At that point I changed my syncing routine to 'back up locally to this computer' and synced to my Mac. I have never since used the cloud to back up anything. I

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: If you use the cloud for business purposes you should make sure you have a service level agreement with the provider that defines their responsibilities for backing up, restoring after a failure, disaster recovery and business

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread Christine Aguila
On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I don't rely on iCloud for file backup or storage. I like it in that it syncs my contacts and calendars, but the data is stored on at least one of my machines. Using internet servers to sync all your machines is

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 4:56 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Meanwhile, at Microsoft ... http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6855756_700b.jpg Is that why Office is so expensive? Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Overbearing metaphors

2013-03-31 Thread David Mann
On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:56 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Maybe in time, with Sir Jony taking over, the apps will change. I seem to remember him saying that he hates the skeuomorphism so that would indicate the next major OS revision should result in an improvement. Cheers, Dave