Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-22 Thread Cotty
>> Ahh, but lest you forget: the lenses are gen-u-ine Summicron glass. > >Really? Apologies, I meant to refer only to the Summicron-C 40mm... Cot Cor, swipe me. He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free U

RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-22 Thread John Coyle
Paul - are you kidding? I don't have a Rolleiflex, but a Rolleicord, but I have handled a 'flex in the past. They both seem to me to be built like brick outhouses, and feel far from flimsy. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:34 PM, Paul Jones [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Paul Jones
avid Chang-Sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:59 PM Subject: RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > Perfect description... Maybe this is what sort of put me off of the Leica > M6... the CL was a little less &quo

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Jones Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. . I assume you were talking about a leica-m. http://pug.komkon.org/01nov/2Rotties.html William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > What's Zenit, your budgerigar? :-) http://www.reginakennelclub.ca/html/puppies/nitwit1.jpg William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsub

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2002-08-21 Thread David Chang-Sang
aul Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. Hi, > The Leica is smaller, brighter, much smarter looking, but > operates somewhat slower. I think that the Leica is better suited to "commitied ph

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2002-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: wendy beard Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > >I have actually been using my Zenit more and more as well. > > Another dog? Sheesh!! Is that all you think about is disparaging my fine possessions? William Robb - Thi

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Lukasz Kacperczyk Subject: RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > << I have actually been using my Zenit more and more as well. >> > > As a hammer, I presume... :) Shame on you!!! It may be a bit of a mongrel, but i

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2002-08-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Jones > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > > > I have used and

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2002-08-21 Thread Paul Jones
than Rolleiflexes. > Still, I would like to have one :) > > Lukasz > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of frank theriault > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT-

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Paul Jones
Hi, > The Leica is smaller, brighter, much smarter looking, but > operates somewhat slower. I think that the Leica is better suited to "commitied photography"(yep i made that up), when your actualy walking around really photographing something and thinking about it, in this sort of situation the

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Keith Whaley
frank theriault wrote: > > Hi, Keith, > > Hmmm... I guess I was thinking of rangefinders only. The C1 kind of blows > my little theory out of the water, eh? > > The "history" that I recounted is what I suspect the Leica folks think, not > necessarily what I think. I do think, however, that

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Keith Whaley
Cotty wrote: > > > In which case, why put their name on the C1? > > That sure isn't a Leica either! I'm dichotomously impressed... > > If I had known that history beforehand, I'd most probably never have > > bought it! > > Ahh, but lest you forget: the lenses are gen-u-ine Summicron glass. Rea

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2002-08-21 Thread Rob Studdert
On 21 Aug 2002 at 18:06, William Robb wrote: > My own experience with my Leica and Rollei: > The Rollei is bigger, and not as bright, but is faster. > The Leica is smaller, brighter, much smarter looking, but > operates somewhat slower. > I try to love them both equally, but sometimes I take the

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2002-08-21 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
<< I have actually been using my Zenit more and more as well. >> As a hammer, I presume... :) Lukasz - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Len Paris Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. > Well, with the number of special commemoratives, and other > collector's items Leitz has produced, I can see where you'd get > that idea. Their lenses are absolutely

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Keith, Hmmm... I guess I was thinking of rangefinders only. The C1 kind of blows my little theory out of the water, eh? The "history" that I recounted is what I suspect the Leica folks think, not necessarily what I think. I do think, however, that were it not for the Bessa, Leica might

RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
<< Their lenses are absolutely first rate, however, and worth the price if you can afford them. >> So I hear :) << To me, Rolleis are at least equal quality, though I'm not a real Rollei 35 fan. >> I don't like cameras that I can't really focus properly. Maybe it's just me, but I need some help

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Cotty
>In which case, why put their name on the C1? >That sure isn't a Leica either! I'm dichotomously impressed... >If I had known that history beforehand, I'd most probably never have >bought it! Ahh, but lest you forget: the lenses are gen-u-ine Summicron glass. Sure the box is a rebadge, but all i

Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Len Paris
27;m not a real Rollei 35 fan. I do like their TLRs, SLRs, and their HFT line of lenses. Len --- - Original Message - From: "Lukasz Kacperczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:05 PM Subject: RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let

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2002-08-21 Thread Keith Whaley
frank theriault wrote: > > I guess the answer is: "They won't". > > They can't make bodies cheap enough, and if they get someone else to do > it (like the Minolta-made CL in the 70's), they won't make enough money > from it. Besides, I think the CL experience makes Leica think that > anything

RE: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks.

2002-08-21 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT-Cheap Leicas-was: Let's get real, folks. I guess the answer is: "They won't". They can't make bodies cheap enough, and if