Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Shoot raw, get a few more cards, they're relatively cheap. Scott Loveless wrote: > Hi, gang! > > I got roped into doing a wedding in late June for a family member. > About two years ago I started seriously considering doing this sort of > work, but then decided against it. However, my wife's cous

RE: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread Markus Maurer
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:10 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: OT

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: > On 2/1/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Want to trade? :-) > > Nice try Doug. > > I don't regret owning [the 80-200/2.8]. I just wish I'd got > the FA 200 as well. I /had/ to give it a shot. Heck, I could probably find something to sweeten the offer. ;-) -

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread David Savage
On 2/1/07, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Savage wrote: > > > (in hindsight I should have got the 200, because the > > 80-200 is a heavy bugger & I use it mostly at the 200mm FL). > > Want to trade? :-) Nice try Doug. I don't regret owning it. I just wish I'd got the FA 200 as w

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 03:30:01 GMT > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > > In a message dated 1/31/2007 7:27:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This auction i

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-02-01 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/02/01 Thu AM 03:26:57 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > > On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:16 PM, David Savage wrote: >> This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8 >> AF Lens with a brand new matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective >> Filter >> >> Winning bid: US $2,551.00 That's a ridiculous price. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail L

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin
John Francis wrote: > I've used one [FA* 28-70/2.8]. There's no doubt it's a nice > lens, but I never felt I needed the extra speed over my 28-105. I lusted after one for a long time when I was shooting film, but I could never afford it when it was available. > But I'm sure that if I shot more i

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
You don't know what a zoom lens is capable of until you've tried one IMHO. Image quality from my FA* zoom is the standard that I base my opinion of all other zoom lenses. Cheers, Dave At 11:32 AM 1/02/2007, Paul Stenquist wrote: >Wow! I didn't even know that lens existed. I'd love to try one.

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
At 12:26 PM 1/02/2007, Digital Image Studio wrote: >This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8 >AF Lens with a brand new matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective >Filter > >Winning bid: US $2,551.00 Thanks Rob. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pd

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'll take you up on that. Paul On Jan 31, 2007, at 10:44 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Wow! I didn't even know that lens existed. I'd love to try one. > > You're coming to GFM? I'll let you try mine. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140077599931 >

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread P. J. Alling
It's the filter, that's what it was... Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Which lens is it? (eBay is blocked by the network admin.) >> >> I'm guessing the FA* 28-70mm f2.8 >> > > This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote: >Wow! I didn't even know that lens existed. I'd love to try one. You're coming to GFM? I'll let you try mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140077599931 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.ne

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/31/2007 7:27:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8 AF Lens with a brand new matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective Filter Winning bid: US $2,551.00 -- Rob Studdert ===

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which lens is it? (eBay is blocked by the network admin.) > > I'm guessing the FA* 28-70mm f2.8 This auction is for a Like-New Condition Pentax FA Pro 28-70mm F/2.8 AF Lens with a brand new matching Hoya HMC 67mm UV Coated Protective Filter W

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
Which lens is it? (eBay is blocked by the network admin.) I'm guessing the FA* 28-70mm f2.8 Cheers, Dave At 11:44 AM 1/02/2007, John Francis wrote: >I've used one. There's no doubt it's a nice lens, but I never >felt I needed the extra speed over my 28-105. But I'm sure that >if I shot more

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread John Francis
I've used one. There's no doubt it's a nice lens, but I never felt I needed the extra speed over my 28-105. But I'm sure that if I shot more in the shorter focal length range I'd think again. On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:32:41PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Wow! I didn't even know that lens exi

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow! I didn't even know that lens existed. I'd love to try one. I hope that when Pentax goes to price the new DA* zooms, they don't see that auction! Paul On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:27 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Although I still prefe

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Mark Roberts
Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Although I still prefer primes. All my other FA & DA zooms still leave me >> feeling a bit cold. > >Some of the FA Zooms could get you a nice holiday: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 01/02/07, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I still prefer primes. All my other FA & DA zooms still leave me > feeling a bit cold. Some of the FA Zooms could get you a nice holiday: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140077599931 -- Rob Studdert HURSTVI

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: > (in hindsight I should have got the 200, because the > 80-200 is a heavy bugger & I use it mostly at the 200mm FL). Want to trade? :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread David Savage
I once to felt the same way. Until I got my FA* 80-200mm f2.8. I tried Rob's FA 200 f2.8 when he was here, and IMO the quality of the images from the 80-200 are so close to those from the FA 200 f2.8, that I cancelled my order once I got the 80-200 (in hindsight I should have got the 200, becau

RE: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread J. C. O'Connell
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:54 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation I have to concur. I personally like primes better, but - when I was shooting 67II's for weddings, all I

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Bruce Dayton
quot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice >> solicitation >> >> >> >> Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If I were taking both film and digital SLRs along, the film camera would be a medium format camera. I don't think the 35mm film images would not be up to snuff against the DSLR images, and I know for me that it would take me forever to render them into prints. All my B&W work is rendered fr

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > I really appreciate all of the advice I've received, and I certainly > didn't mean to start an argument. Discussion, even with > disagreements,

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Personally, I almost always use prime lenses. For events, I tend to pick one focal length and stay with that for the whole event. Indoor parties have never been a problem with either a normal or a medium- wide lens (35mm or 21mm on the *ist DS works great. I find the changes in coverage and r

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
To each their own. I think if I was able to scout a location ahead of time, I might consider using a prime for some events. But that isn't always the case. For example, I had no idea how close I could get shooting the ceremony in the courthouse. I didn't want to have to swap lenses. Thus, two c

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/31/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > > > >I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
of a hobbyist. Paul -- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > > > >I

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation >I wouldn't try to shoot an event like a party or wedding without a zoom. At >any size 11 x14 or smaller, there's no visible difference between a shot >

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread pnstenquist
: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice > solicitation > > > >> Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally, I'd &

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-31 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation >> Ferget multiple lenses. Keep your equipment to a minumum. Personally, I'd >> recommend just a standard lens. It'll keep you from being caught flat

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You want to use RAW and edit in [EMAIL PROTECTED] once converted to > obtain as much dynamic range as possible ... wedding dresses and > black tuxedos with skin tones in the same light is one of the more > difficult scene dynamics. > > If yo

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Adobe Photoshop CS One-on-one by Deke McClelland is an excellent book. I > suppose there are versions for later versions of CS as well. > Thanks, Marnie. I'll have a look at it next time I get to the book store. -- Scott Loveless http:

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >I guess I need to actually learn how to use Photoshop efficiently. > >Could you recommend any particular books that approach > >Photoshop from a photographer's point of view? > > Real World Camera Raw by Bruce Fraser.

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Scott > couldn't you wife assist you as second shooter with the backup camera/flash > set you hopefully have? > Also holding a second flash and organizing people for group shots for you > would be helpful IMHO. I doubt my wife will be able

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On 1/30/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" > Subject: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > > Any other advice for a wedding newbie would be greatly appreciated. > > In the meantime

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> I guess I need to actually learn how to use Photoshop efficiently. > Could you recommend any particular books that approach Photoshop from > a photographer's point of view? > > My wife will have her hands full with herding our daughter down the > aisle (flower girl), as well as helping with t

RE: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Markus Maurer
EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation Scott Loveless wrote: >I guess I need to actually learn how to use Photoshop efficiently. >Could you recommend any particular

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/30/2007 3:15:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I guess I need to actually learn how to use Photoshop efficiently. > Could you recommend any particular books that approach Photoshop from > a photographer's point of view? > > My wife will have her ha

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless wrote: >I guess I need to actually learn how to use Photoshop efficiently. >Could you recommend any particular books that approach >Photoshop from a photographer's point of view? Real World Camera Raw by Bruce Fraser. Short version: Your main tool is Adobe Bridge - you treat Photo

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" Subject: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation > Any other advice for a wedding newbie would be greatly appreciated. > In the meantime my daughter's probably going to grow to hate the > camera, and my next

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Paul. The first thing I did when asked to shoot this wedding was explain to him that I've never done one before and that he should not expect top notch results. On one later occasion we had a similar conversation. I think I've made it clear, and he's told me that he understands. RAW doe

Re: OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm sure you'll get lots of advice. But the first thing you need to do is explain to your wife's cousin that this is not the kind of work you do and there's a risk factor involved in your doing it. I recently did a similar favor for friends, but I made it clear that I am not a wedding photograp

OT - Wedding photography advice solicitation

2007-01-29 Thread Scott Loveless
Hi, gang! I got roped into doing a wedding in late June for a family member. About two years ago I started seriously considering doing this sort of work, but then decided against it. However, my wife's cousin is putting together a wedding on a limited budget (it is apparently very expensive to br