Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.
Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know
about foreign
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.
Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do
On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote:
The trouble is that the laws in some places are such that you
could get charged with an offense just for looking at such a
photo, regardless of your reasons for doing so.
The difficult thing about applying that to the internet is that often
I know
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the
But only if you know what the question is.
From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 08:41:31 GMT
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I know
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul
David Mann wrote:
That kind of thing is starting to happen here:
http://www.starcanterbury.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?
storyid=3692452thesection=localnewsthesubsection=thesecondsubsection=
The link is incomplete but I found the story you were referring
to and it is the sort of thing
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.
Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
And that, of course, is what you have to do. The responsibility is on
your side, and as you never can know what is in the other end of an
internet link you have to be extremely careful.
Why don't you just say
content
You make me laugh! :-)
Tom C.
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From: Keith McGuinness
Subject: Re
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
You make me laugh! :-)
Thats probably why we are such good friends.
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You can ask.
Or you can listen to those pdml'ers from that particular country.
Kenneth Waller
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From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness:
I am NOT saying
,
Bob
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I know
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20. jul
On 7/18/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Great photo!
Yes!!
cheers,
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This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a friend when you
visit them. ie if you smoke he didn't like smoking in his house, you would
refrain from smoking when visiting him.
Kenneth Waller
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From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
As long as you
imam.
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Sent: 20 July 2006 19:50
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Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties
that might
On 7/20/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as you know what to ask.
Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for
parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that
other cultures might be uptight about it?
Does anyone here, for example,
Bob W wrote:
I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to
local customs if
it affected him/her.
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any
photographs that depict human beings. Please do not post any more to
the list, otherwise I could get
posting, you are
advocating not caring.
How friendly is that?
Tom C.
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:18:45 +0100
As long as you know what to ask.
Why
Ken Waller wrote:
I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to local customs if
it affected him/her.
This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a friend when you
visit them. ie if you smoke he didn't like smoking in his house, you would
refrain from smoking
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That being said, it seems to me that if Dag had put Naked Child in
the SL, or explicit sexual content or whatever, wouldn't that just
draw those perverts that google such phrases to look at this
On 7/20/06, Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob W wrote:
I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to
local customs if
it affected him/her.
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any
photographs that depict human beings. Please do not
I can't believe that any cop or prosecutor, seeing one or two photos
that may be in my work computer's cache would choose to prosecute,
given the innocent nature of them, especially with an explanation of
how and why they got here, and especially given the fact that there
are no other nekkid kids
July 2006 20:20
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
The thing is, there's been quite a lot of discussion on this
list regarding
the laws and/or somewhat hostile or negative view taken in
some countries of
this sort of subject, and the possible repercussions of being
associated
Right on, Ryan! When you find it, I'll join it.
John
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:15:39 +0100, Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob W wrote:
I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to
local customs if
it affected him/her.
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:36:34 +0100
It's tough love, Tom. We have to liberate you from the kind of
thinking that equates childhood nakedness with sexuality.
Otherwise it'll end up
-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom C
Sent: 20 July 2006 20:20
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
The thing is, there's been quite a lot of discussion on this
list regarding
the laws and/or somewhat hostile or negative view taken in
some
Smoking and taking exception to child nudity are very different things.
The former is a slightly unpleasant vice, the latter is a sign of severe
brain-washing, at the very least.
People who are worried about what the boss would think might perhaps
consider doing some work while they are
I can't believe that any cop or prosecutor, seeing one or two photos
that may be in my work computer's cache would choose to prosecute,
given the innocent nature of them, especially with an explanation of
how and why they got here, and especially given the fact that there
are no other nekkid kids
On 7/20/06, Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a religion where pictures of cats aren't allowed?
Johnstonism
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Loosely related to demonstrate how an innocent situation can get out of
hand...
http://www.gregsopinion.com/archives/001947.html
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On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Loosely related to demonstrate how an innocent situation can get out of
hand...
http://www.gregsopinion.com/archives/001947.html
That's a bad example.
A 31 year old mother doesn't know to protect her 10 month old kids
from sunburn? I'm not saying
frank theriault wrote:
On 7/20/06, Ryan Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a religion where pictures of cats aren't allowed?
Johnstonism
I tried to join, but I never got the book.
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Sent: 20 July 2006 20:49
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
I've noticed that your words and others, seem to imply that
those who had a
problem with the photo being posted without a warning (not
necessarialy the
photo itself), have a perverse or distorted view
: PESO - Jump
I've noticed that your words and others, seem to imply that
those who had a
problem with the photo being posted without a warning (not
necessarialy the
photo itself), have a perverse or distorted view of the subject.
That was not the case.
Tom C
pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:13:21 -0400
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Loosely related to demonstrate how an innocent situation can get out of
hand...
http://www.gregsopinion.com/archives/001947.html
That's a bad example.
A 31 year old
to prosecute.
Those are the ones that scare me, because guilt or innocence is not even the
issue.
Tom C.
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:16:22 +0100
Hi Tom
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob,
Thanks for the clarification.
I agree that nakedness need not = sexuality.
Agreed.
I'm also pointing out that there is another collection of people, not quite
as vocal, but with the power of the law behind them, that are lurking out
there
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 20.01 skrev Kenneth Waller:
You can ask.
Or you can listen to those pdml'ers from that particular country.
Kenneth Waller
So maybe we should have a poll. Everybody tells about the specific
taboos in each country represented in PDML and how they should be
avoided.
You need not patronize me just to shut me up Frank. :-)
Tom C.
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:54:41 -0400
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL
What rock did you crawl out from under? Sleep good? :-)
Tom C.
From: John Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:48:00 +0100
Smoking and taking exception
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You need not patronize me just to shut me up Frank. :-)
It's worked every other time.
rimshot
Goodnight everybody, I'm outta here, you've been a great audience
cheers,
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Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 22.16 skrev Bob W:
The overwhelming majority of people everywhere love watching children
play and enjoy themselves, with or without clothes on, in the most
innocent way, and think nothing of it. However there is a small but
vocal group of people who are always ready to
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 21.10 skrev frank theriault:
On 7/20/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as you know what to ask.
Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for
parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that
other cultures might be
!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of DagT
Sent: 20 July 2006 09:42
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
I know
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling:
You can ask.
DagT wrote:
Den 20
Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties
that might be
caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a
woman with her
face uncovered, perhaps driving a car?
I would expect we'd be advised
Kenneth Waller wrote:
This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a friend when you
visit them. ie if you smoke he didn't like smoking in his house, you would
refrain from smoking when visiting him.
It's quite a bit different, actually.
Presumably you have some idea of your
If there isn't there should be.
Ryan Brooks wrote:
Bob W wrote:
I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to
local customs if
it affected him/her.
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any
photographs that depict human beings. Please
July 2006 19:50
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties
that might be
caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a
woman with her
face uncovered, perhaps driving
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Waller
Sent: 20 July 2006 19:50
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties
that might be
caused to people in some Muslim
On 20/7/06, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any
photographs that depict human beings. Please do not post any more to
the list, otherwise I could get into trouble with my imam.
Hot damn. Apple gets everywhere!
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:54:41 -0400
On 7/20/06, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob,
Thanks for the clarification.
I agree that nakedness need not = sexuality.
Agreed.
I'm also pointing out that there is another collection
Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see
any
photographs that depict human beings. Please do not post any more
to
the list, otherwise I could get into trouble with my imam.
Hot damn. Apple gets everywhere!
so does hot peppermint tea when you make me splurt it out
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kenneth Waller
Sent: 20 July 2006 19:50
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties
that might be
caused to people in some Muslim countries
You're being ridiculous. No one has ever expressed concern about the
word, democracy. No one has ever expressed concern about women
driving cars. But people have expressed concern about nude children.
If you can't put a simple tag on the photo like not office
friendly, then I think those
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:14:48 -0400
You're being ridiculous. No one has ever expressed concern about the
word, democracy. No one has ever expressed concern about women
driving cars. But people have expressed concern about nude children.
If you can't put a simple tag
.
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:14:48 -0400
You're being ridiculous. No one has ever expressed concern about the
word, democracy. No one
I thought we *usually* do. :-)
Wait just a minute here. How the hell did we end up agreeing about
something?
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I haven't done much more than skim the messages in this thread.
Just took a look at the picture.
Such vitriol over a photo of a naked child taking a jump off a rock.
Sheesh.
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Perhaps. I'm old. I forget what I said yesterday:-).
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On Jul 20, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Tom C wrote:
I thought we *usually* do. :-)
Wait just a minute here. How the hell did we end up agreeing about
something?
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No one has expressed any objection to the photo or its content. Only to
the absence of an indication of what is about to appear on one's
monitor. No vitriol. Just the normal concern of people who have to deal
with the real world of a suspicious society.
Paul
On Jul 20, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Godfrey
In a message dated 7/20/2006 6:32:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No one has expressed any objection to the photo or its content. Only to
the absence of an indication of what is about to appear on one's
monitor. No vitriol. Just the normal concern of people who have to
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
As long as you know what to ask.
Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for
parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that
other cultures might be uptight about
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
How do you know your pictures of your naked children are not ending up on
the hard drive of somebody lurking on the list that's a pedophile? Gives
one pause for thought, huh?
It would if one actually thought
William
with their mean little
minds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom C
Sent: 18 July 2006 23:51
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Looking at those kind of photos over here will get us in
trouble, especially
if one
Den 19. jul. 2006 kl. 06.38 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In a message dated 7/18/2006 3:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Just a summer picture:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=247689
*istD and DA 14mm 2.8
DagT
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Shouldn't you be working instead of browsing the PDML?
vbg
Dave (at work)
On 7/19/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree that it's a beautiful photo of an innocent child. But that
being said, I don't want to lose my job. So a warning would be nice.
Not Office Friendly is a
DagT wrote:
In my view this is just an innocent child and if someone manages to
thinks anything perverted in relation to it the problem is in their
minds.
The trouble is that the laws in some places are such that you
could get charged with an offense just for looking at such a
photo,
- Original Message -
From: Keith McGuinness
Subject: Re: PESO - Jump
I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've
got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be
different, not only the customs.
Canadian law makes it a crime to have anything
Just a summer picture:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=247689
*istD and DA 14mm 2.8
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Great photo!
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Behalf Of DagT
Sent: 18 July 2006 23:17
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Subject: PESO - Jump
Just a summer picture:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=247689
@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:28:28 +0100
Great photo!
--
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Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of DagT
Sent: 18 July 2006 23:17
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO - Jump
Just
and should go screw
themselves rather than waste all our time with their mean little
minds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom C
Sent: 18 July 2006 23:51
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Looking at those
.
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:11:07 +0100
Well, you know what, the more you accept their view of things the more
they'll impose it on you.
It's a beautiful
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:28:28 +0100
Great photo!
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Bob
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
, and there happens to
be a
nosy corporate spy.
Tom C.
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:28:28 +0100
Great photo!
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Bob
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time with their mean little
minds.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom C
Sent: 18 July 2006 23:51
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Jump
Looking at those kind of photos over here will get us in
trouble
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Just a summer picture:
http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=247689
*istD and DA 14mm 2.8
DagT
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Gotta say my first reaction to this is that looks dangerous. Kept looking for
the
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