Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
interesting designs on these Dave On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 5:21 PM Henk Terhell wrote: > This looks like another earthstar, geastrum triplex (collared earthstar > - gekraagde aardster), also not uncommon in dune areas. > I don't know about the attraction of flies but it is indeed the case for >

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread Henk Terhell
This looks like another earthstar, geastrum triplex (collared earthstar - gekraagde aardster), also not uncommon in dune areas. I don't know about the attraction of flies but it is indeed the case for a number of mushrooms. Henk Op 2020-10-18 om 22:01 schreef Toine: Miracles exist. Never seen

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread Toine
Miracles exist. Never seen this fungus before. Some earthstars are on the red list, no idea if this is one of those. Thanks to your photo I spotted this specimen on my daily walk: https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#&gid=1&pid=005-926-20201018-imgp3314 The fly is intriguing. My guess is the flies are

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread lrc
Very nice! On October 18, 2020 3:27:08 AM PDT, Henk Terhell wrote: >Amidst all the rotten leaves these fringed earthstars pop up,  from >which their spores will be blown away in a short time . >https://flic.kr/p/2jWkDki > >Henk > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.ne

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well shot, Henk! I have never seen any quite like them. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:27 AM Henk Terhell wrote: > Amidst all the rotten leaves these fringed earthstars pop up, from > which their spores

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread ann sanfedele
Those are seriously odd looking fungi... interesting but almost creepy - well, in time for Halloween. ann On 10/18/2020 6:27 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: Amidst all the rotten leaves these fringed earthstars pop up,  from which their spores will be blown away in a short time . https://flic.kr/p/2j

Re: PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread Toine
Nice! I never spotted these in my neighbourhood. On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, 12:27 Henk Terhell, wrote: > Amidst all the rotten leaves these fringed earthstars pop up, from > which their spores will be blown away in a short time . > https://flic.kr/p/2jWkDki > > Henk > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

PESO: stars are born

2020-10-18 Thread Henk Terhell
Amidst all the rotten leaves these fringed earthstars pop up,  from which their spores will be blown away in a short time . https://flic.kr/p/2jWkDki Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-17 Thread Mark C
Quite a stunning effect! On 4/16/2014 2:02 PM, Toine wrote: A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/255-stars Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-17 Thread Toine
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:02:34 +0200 >>> From: Toine >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: PESO Stars >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Am

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
From: Toine >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: PESO Stars >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam >> >> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-9

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-16 Thread Don Guthrie
Moire test? Eye Test? Abstract art test? pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:02:34 +0200 From: Toine To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO Stars Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam http

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-16 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That's quite a find, and a fine abstract, but it makes me dizzy if I star gaze too long. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Love it. Very psychedelic. > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Toine wrote: >> A ceili

Re: PESO Stars

2014-04-16 Thread Bruce Walker
Love it. Very psychedelic. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Toine wrote: > A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam > > http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/255-stars > > Toine > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to

PESO Stars

2014-04-16 Thread Toine
A ceiling in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/255-stars Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PESO: stars

2014-01-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
I second the WOW! -Original Message- >From: Walt >Subject: Re: PESO: stars > >Wow, Juan! > >That is just great! > >-- Walt > > >On 12/28/2013 3:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: >> At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One >>

Re: PESO: stars

2014-01-03 Thread Mark C
That is a fabulous shot! Mark On 12/28/2013 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean "the compass app on

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread knarf
Hey Juan, Nice to see you again. Great photo. Would be great ad copy for a Vanagon! Beautiful! Cheers, frank Juan Buhler wrote: >At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One >night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight >south. By "the stars" I mean

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Bruce Walker
A very impressive shot in many ways, Juan. Congratulations on your amazing journey of discovery! On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread P.J. Alling
I thought that the Holy Mackerel was some southern constellation that I'd never seen... On 12/29/2013 10:35 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 29/12/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: I think Cotty would exclaim "Holy Mackerel!" here... At least this is what I've just done... I think

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 29/12/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think Cotty would exclaim "Holy Mackerel!" here... At least this is >what I've just done... I think Jumping Jupiter! is more appropriate ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production ---

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Walt
Wow, Juan! That is just great! -- Walt On 12/28/2013 3:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean "the comp

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread David J Brooks
terrific dave On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean > "the compass app on

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Boris Liberman
I think Cotty would exclaim "Holy Mackerel!" here... At least this is what I've just done... On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By "t

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Attila Boros
Very nicely done! On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean > "the compass ap

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Lovely photo! Just checked out the blog! Great fun! Happy travels into our coming New Year to the both of you! Cheers, Christine On Dec 28, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-29 Thread Larry Colen
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 06:10:54PM -0500, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > wow - that's really fun - and interesting.. and I like the little > touch of civilization on the right and the light on the left that > looks like it must be another vehicle coming toward you instead of > the sun, which was my first

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
; > > > > - Original Message - > From: Juan Buhler > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:04 PM > Subject: PESO: stars > > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the st

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Jack Davis
Wonderful result. Congratulations! Jack - Original Message - From: Juan Buhler To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 1:04 PM Subject: PESO: stars At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Rick Womer
I was impressed with this shot in vanenvan; seeing it larger makes me VERY impressed. Somehow, this shot captures your journey. Rick On Dec 28, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Eactivist
Cool shot. Really like it. Also, to let you know, I've been enjoying vanenvan.com quite a bit. Especially Steph's articles. Well, uh, the photography is good too, of course. Heh. Marnie aka Doe ;-) In a message dated 12/28/2013 1:05:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanbuh...@gmail.com writ

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very effective image! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By "the stars"

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 28/12/13, Juan Buhler, discombobulated, unleashed: > >http://www.vanenvan.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/20131102-JBK57217.jpg > >K5, 12-24/4 at 12mm, f4, on bulb for a while while I had some beers and >dinner. > >Some of you might have seen it since I posted it to vanenvan.com, but >I thought

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
wow - that's really fun - and interesting.. and I like the little touch of civilization on the right and the light on the left that looks like it must be another vehicle coming toward you instead of the sun, which was my first thought. ann On 12/28/2013 16:04, Juan Buhler wrote: At the begi

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Beautiful! On Dec 28, 2013, at 4:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One > night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight > south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean > "the compass app on the ip

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Bob W
Nice to hear from you again! Can't help with the camera, but definitely a good idea to get the M9. How strange that when I looked at your shot I was also looking at this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Istanbul.Hagia_Sophia075.jpg B > On 28 Dec 2013, at 21:04, Juan Buhler w

Re: PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mahvelous, Juan! That's a terrific shot. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you both … I'm reminded to go visit your blog and read about your adventures. I'm at least a month behind at present. best, Godfrey On Dec 28, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: > At the beginning of last month

PESO: stars

2013-12-28 Thread Juan Buhler
At the beginning of last month we were in Peru, on the coast. One night I looked at the stars and realized we were pointing straight south. By "the stars" I mean "my compass". And by "my compass" I mean "the compass app on the iphone". Anyway, we were pointing straight south, so I made this photo:

Re: PESO - Stars of the Pond

2013-08-20 Thread George Sinos
Thanks Dan. I'm happy that I can finally turn it into a print. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > That is a very interesting and appealing image. You have a good eye > to notice and capture

Re: PESO - Stars of the Pond

2013-08-19 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very interesting and appealing image. You have a good eye to notice and capture that scene! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM, George Sinos wrote: > This is an old photo that's been sitting around waiting for technology > th

PESO - Stars of the Pond

2013-08-19 Thread George Sinos
This is an old photo that's been sitting around waiting for technology that could clean it up. It was taken with an old Pentax point and shoot. I forget the model number, but I used to carry it around in the days before digital and camera phones. I scanned it a while back and the file has been s

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Brilliant. Like some others, I do find the crooked horizon a bit distracting, but that's a simple fix. Well done. Paul On Dec 11, 2011, at 5:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > A shot from Friday night > > >

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 12:58 PM, David Savage wrote: > Thanks Tom. > > I deliberately didn't correct the no horizontal horizon, because it's > something that Brian comments. > > I left it skewif to annoy him :-) It did - but Ken and Tom beat me to it Despite that - great shot. I'm goin

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
Thanks Tom. I deliberately didn't correct the no horizontal horizon, because it's something that Brian comments. I left it skewif to annoy him :-) Cheers, Dave On 12 December 2011 09:33, Tom C wrote: >> >> Very original and well done, but I find the horizon tilt a little >> distracting. >> >>

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
al Message - From: "David Savage" > Subject: OT PESO: Stars & Moons > > > >> G'day All, >> >> A shot from Friday night >> >> >> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/6491672871/in/photostream/lightbox/> >> >>

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
On 12 December 2011 03:03, Toine wrote: > Cool! Thanks. > How did you create the sphere? See my response to Dave B. Cheers, Dave > Toine > > On 11 December 2011 19:38, Christine Aguila wrote: >> Love it!  Very cool, Dave.  Cheers, Christine >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:57 AM, David Sav

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
Thanks Christine. Dave On 12 December 2011 02:38, Christine Aguila wrote: > Love it!  Very cool, Dave.  Cheers, Christine > > > > On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > >> G'day All, >> >> A shot from Friday night >> >>

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
Cheers. Dave On 11 December 2011 23:16, Bulent Celasun wrote: > Amazing! > > Bulent > - > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ > http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bule

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
Thanks Bob. The shots are taken 1 after the other (using my timer cable release). The shots are then layered in a program called Starstax (free to download & available for PC, Mac & Linux) which combined the multiple 1 minute startrails into 1 long one. This is a handy technique for cameras that

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
Thanks Dave. The orb is created bye spinning some LED's on the end of a length of wire. While spinning the LED's in a circle, you also walk around the vertical centre of the "circle" Image a hoola hoop balanced on its edge, & then turning it while it is upright. Cheers, Dave On 11 December 201

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Tom C
> > Very original and well done, but I find the horizon tilt a little > distracting. > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > Agreed - Straighten that horizon and you have a very nice UFO shot! It makes sense that to travel at the speed of light they must be encased w

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread kwaller
Very original and well done, but I find the horizon tilt a little distracting. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: OT PESO: Stars & Moons G'day All, A shot from Friday night <

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Toine
Cool! How did you create the sphere? Toine On 11 December 2011 19:38, Christine Aguila wrote: > Love it!  Very cool, Dave.  Cheers, Christine > > > > On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > >> G'day All, >> >> A shot from Friday night >> >>

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Christine Aguila
Love it! Very cool, Dave. Cheers, Christine On Dec 11, 2011, at 4:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > A shot from Friday night > > > > Direct Link > >

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Bulent Celasun
Amazing! Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2011/12/11 David Savage : > G'day All, > > A shot from Friday nig

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dave, 25 1 minute exposures? How do you make the trails continueous, instead of dashed lines. And the sphere is wonderful... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 4:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > A shot from Friday night > >

Re: OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David J Brooks
That is spectacular. What did you use for the sphere.?? Dave On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 5:57 AM, David Savage wrote: > G'day All, > > A shot from Friday night > > > > Direct Link > >

OT PESO: Stars & Moons

2011-12-11 Thread David Savage
G'day All, A shot from Friday night Direct Link This was a first (serious) attempt at doing a composite star trail. The above image is made up of 25 1 mi

Re: PESO - Stars and Astronomers

2008-07-05 Thread Beaker
Thanks, Jens. The moon pictures were taken last year, with the camera bolted to a telescope. Cheers Mike On Jul 4, 2008, at 11:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Interesting small series. I love the darkes of moons a lot. > > Regards, Jens > >> The Howard Astronomical League had an outing last W

Re: PESO - Stars and Astronomers

2008-07-04 Thread jens
Interesting small series. I love the darkes of moons a lot. Regards, Jens > The Howard Astronomical League had an outing last Wednesday night. > The first successful event in quite a while. We tried the previous > Saturday. I got there just in time for a really hard downpour. > Wednesday was real

Re: PESO - Stars and Astronomers

2008-07-04 Thread Beaker
On Jul 4, 2008, at 8:18 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > I really like the one of the guy at the red-lit console. > > The series makes the problem of light pollution very evident, too. > > Rick > > http://photo.net/photos/RickW Thanks That was a last minute addition. At first, I thought the guy was too

Re: PESO - Stars and Astronomers

2008-07-04 Thread Rick Womer
I really like the one of the guy at the red-lit console. The series makes the problem of light pollution very evident, too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 7/4/08, Beaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Beaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Stars an

PESO - Stars and Astronomers

2008-07-04 Thread Beaker
The Howard Astronomical League had an outing last Wednesday night. The first successful event in quite a while. We tried the previous Saturday. I got there just in time for a really hard downpour. Wednesday was really nice weather- warm, no dew, and no clouds. I got some pictures of stars,

Re: PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-17 Thread Christine Aguila
An intriguing star-catch here, Francis. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: PESO ~ Stars ~ > http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php

Re: PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-17 Thread David J Brooks
Very good. Dave On Feb 16, 2008 3:01 PM, Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=536&s=pentaxdiscuss&tb=sb > > Cheers, > Francis > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE f

Re: PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-16 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice photo, but too many stars for me. Regards, Bob S. On Feb 16, 2008 2:01 PM, Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=536&s=pentaxdiscuss&tb=sb > > Cheers, > Francis > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/l

Re: PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very nice. The rocks and specular highlights present an interesting contrast. Paul On Feb 16, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Francis wrote: > http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php? > image_id=536&s=pentaxdiscuss&tb=sb > > Cheers, > Francis > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://p

Re: PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 16, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Francis wrote: > http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php? > image_id=536&s=pentaxdiscuss&tb=sb Rather pretty, restful photo. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, pleas

PESO ~ Stars ~

2008-02-16 Thread Francis
http://www.islandlight.ca/showphoto.php?image_id=536&s=pentaxdiscuss&tb=sb Cheers, Francis -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.