Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-19 Thread Boris Liberman
Peter, one of your stronger images for sure. Geometry! Yummy ;-). Boris P. J. Alling wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited > > Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. > > As us

PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail II

2007-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I got a good thing going I'm milking it for all it's worth. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail2.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc FA Pentax 20-35mm f4.0 AL As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-19 Thread P. J. Alling
It's meant to look like rock, but they built it from inexpensive concrete. ann sanfedele wrote: > Isn't it the kind of rock? > looks like grano-diorite to me > > ann > > > Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: > > >> As per Rob Studdert's comment, the surface texture - I see distinct black >> spots, rath

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread Russell Kerstetter
nice gritty shot Peter. russ On 4/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited > > Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. > > As usual comments a

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread ann sanfedele
Isn't it the kind of rock? looks like grano-diorite to me ann Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: >As per Rob Studdert's comment, the surface texture - I see distinct black >spots, rather than the customary grainy rough-concrete surfact texture. But >then it could be just because of the reduced image

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread frank theriault
On 4/17/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited > > Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. > > As usual comments are welcome but may be totally i

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail [100% crop] was Re: PESO -- Pirelli Build...

2007-04-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/18/2007 9:20:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wise A** (I was going to say guy but that's wrong so your stuck with this). I've never been able to figure out what a 100% crop is. Used they way you suggest it would be a redundant way of saying uncr

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice abstract - good eye ! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail [100% crop] was Re: PESO -- Pirelli Build...

2007-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling
Wise A** (I was going to say guy but that's wrong so your stuck with this). I've never been able to figure out what a 100% crop is. Used they way you suggest it would be a redundant way of saying uncropped. So I'm using it to say a cropped portion of a digital photo full size. So there. (Wa

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2007-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling
s exactly as I would expect. > > Tom C. > > > > > >> From: "Maris V. Lidaka Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> Subject: Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail [100% crop]

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2007-04-18 Thread Tom C
"Maris V. Lidaka Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail [100% crop] was Re: PESO >--PirelliBuilding Detail >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:02:40 -0500 > >

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2007-04-18 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail100pct.html > > Equipment: As before. > > Notes: As before. > > Comments? > > = > I thought a 100% crop was the full frame picture with NO crop. > 100% crop means: A cro

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2007-04-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/18/2007 5:50:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With all the discussion of what amounts to the texture of the building previous image I thought why not post an 100% crop. so here it is. The only difference in processing between this and the previou

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2007-04-18 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Now that looks real - the embedded black chips visibly display that they are black chips and not sharpening artifacts, and the concrete surrounding the chips is smooth. IMHO the resizing did it. Maris P. J. Alling wrote: > With all the discussion of what amounts to the texture of the building

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread Jack Davis
Been true forever. Almost seemed the "oversharpened" hysteria actually influenced some to "oversoften". Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also wonder how it could look grainy, since it's a digital image > and doesn't have grain? No noise in the shadows. At least not on >

PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail [100% crop] was Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-18 Thread P. J. Alling
With all the discussion of what amounts to the texture of the building previous image I thought why not post an 100% crop. so here it is. The only difference in processing between this and the previous image was resizing. http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail100pct.html

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, you can create noise, but this shot isn't noisy. The texture appears to be inherent in the concrete. Paul On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 18/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I also wonder how it could look grainy, since it's a digital image

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Those are obviously part of the concrete mix. It's a textured concrete. Paul On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: > As per Rob Studdert's comment, the surface texture - I see distinct > black > spots, rather than the customary grainy rough-concrete surfact > texture. But >

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought I'd posted a number of more interesting pictures over the last few weeks. Sometimes I wonder if anyone actually looks. I guess they do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 4/17/2007 5:48:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://home.earthlink.ne

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/17/2007 5:48:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. As usual comments

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Hey guys the distinct black spots are in the concrete. The builder used black gravel as part of the aggregate, (I think the architect called for it). The surface is actually relatively smooth. In fact it doesn't look rough to me, but then I know what I'm looking at. Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote:

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Per my final comment just posted, I guess the resizing created the appearance of oversharpening for me - that can happen, as there are so few pixels remaining. I would think your original (i.e. just before resizing) would look fine - more of the mid-tone pixels would be extant. Maris P. J. Al

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
As per Rob Studdert's comment, the surface texture - I see distinct black spots, rather than the customary grainy rough-concrete surfact texture. But then it could be just because of the reduced image size. Maris Paul Stenquist wrote: > Interesting comment, Maris. On what basis? I see no halo

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also wonder how it could look grainy, since it's a digital image > and doesn't have grain? No noise in the shadows. At least not on > these itty-bitty web images. I think that sharp images are now being > critiqued as "oversharpened." Put a

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Methinks some of us are reading way too much into tiny web images. My comment pertains to what was presented, no more, no less. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swif

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
I also wonder how it could look grainy, since it's a digital image and doesn't have grain? No noise in the shadows. At least not on these itty-bitty web images. I think that sharp images are now being critiqued as "oversharpened." Put away the magnifying glasses, boys. Paul On Apr 17, 2007, a

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Methinks some of us are reading way too much into tiny web images. paul On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:16 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 18/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Interesting comment, Maris. On what basis? I see no halo effect, no >> afterglow, no crispiness. Where do yo

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Which is funny since I didn't use any sharpening tools it at all. Just minimal processing, bit of curves to bring up the mid tones then a second time adding an s curve to increase the contrast a bit. Then hit with the B&W conversion with the yellow filter. Resized for the web added my copyri

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 18/04/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting comment, Maris. On what basis? I see no halo effect, no > afterglow, no crispiness. Where do you see evidence of > oversharpening. Not trying to be argumentative, just curious. The contrast enhancement or the yellow filter and lo

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Interesting comment, Maris. On what basis? I see no halo effect, no afterglow, no crispiness. Where do you see evidence of oversharpening. Not trying to be argumentative, just curious. Paul On Apr 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Maris V. Lidaka Sr. wrote: > Composition and B&W conversion look very good.

Re: PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
Composition and B&W conversion look very good. For me, it appears oversharpened. Maris P. J. Alling wrote: > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html > > Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited > > Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter appl

PESO -- Pirelli Building Detail

2007-04-17 Thread P. J. Alling
http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/pirellibuildingdetail.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited Notes: B&W conversion in using B&W plus yellow filter applied. As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee