Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Brad Dobo
ROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > Let's see, > > Bob is "Piss Face". I'm "Dip Shit". I don't blame you for being > jealous, Tom. > > I'm sure som

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 01:37 PM, tom wrote: Can I have a cool name too? tv Nope. If you want a cool name, you'll have to earn it. :-) Dan Scott

Re: PROS [WAS:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.]

2002-12-13 Thread Dr E D F Williams
om: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:14 PM Subject: Re: PROS [WAS:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.] > > > Dr E D F Williams wrote: > > > > It would appear that although the title of t

RE: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > MORE GUNS. > > > Dr E D F Williams, > > Having been certified by Mr. Bruce Rubenstein as "Piss Face", May I > recommend, should I not already be there, that you put me > in one of your > filters. Yup, I volunteer. C

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Dr E D F Williams, Having been certified by Mr. Bruce Rubenstein as "Piss Face", May I recommend, should I not already be there, that you put me in one of your filters. Yup, I volunteer. All of the photos & negatives that I produce as part of my job belong to my clients, therefore all is handed

Re: PROS [WAS:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.]

2002-12-13 Thread Keith Whaley
Dr E D F Williams wrote: > > It would appear that although the title of the thread is still strange the > subject matter has changed. I'm back and ready to make a whole load of > filters should it happen again. Oh, we know that you will! Why don't you just drop it Doctor. Everybody else has. A

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Dr E D F Williams
iams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: "T Rittenhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:12 PM Subject: Re: PROS-was:AB

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, Bruce, I didn't ask why. Everyone knows it's about attempting to control others through inflicting pain. This is what I don't understand. Don't you know that control is an illusion? - but thanks for your sententious description of me. Regards from, Piss Face

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread T Rittenhouse
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > > - Original Message - > From: Feroze Kistan > Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-wa

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-13 Thread Feroze Kistan
t: Friday, December 13, 2002 6:29 AM Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > > - Original Message - > From: Dan Scott > Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE > GUNS. > > > > > > What if someone

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Peter Alling
I think you've just described an art director. At 10:03 PM 12/12/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 09:23 PM, William Robb wrote: No, you could borrow, rent or steal it. I think you do have to have a camera to be a photographer though. What if someone else fires the s

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Peter Alling
Based on some of the horror stories about un-licensed cosmetic surgeons in the State of New York recently I guess the answer to your question is maybe. At 09:23 PM 12/12/2002 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Peter Alling
Hell I didn't know you had to buy a license, then again I'm in the US. At 08:55 PM 12/12/2002 -0600, you wrote: On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 05:56 PM, William Robb wrote: To be a professional photographer, you need to buy a camera and a business licence. William Robb Do you actually

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 21:23:20 -0600, William Robb wrote: > Of course, by the same theory, if you have a scalpel, are you > automatically a surgeon? _I_ _am_. I don't know about _you_. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > > What if someone else fires the shutter, but you design and set up the > shot? Are you the photographer or is he? What if it's his camera and > he's get

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 09:23 PM, William Robb wrote: Of course, by the same theory, if you have a scalpel, are you automatically a surgeon? William Robb I have a camera, but I'm all too frequently not a photographer. Dan Scott

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, at 09:23 PM, William Robb wrote: No, you could borrow, rent or steal it. I think you do have to have a camera to be a photographer though. What if someone else fires the shutter, but you design and set up the shot? Are you the photographer or is he? What if i

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Dan Subject: Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > Do you actually have to buy the camera? No, you could borrow, rent or steal it. I think you do have to have a camera to be a photographer though. Of course, by the same theory,

RE: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > To be a professional photographer, you need to buy a camera and > a business licence. Oh crap, I knew I forgot something. tv

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread William Robb
> Keith Whaley wrote: > > > > If you family doctor was on vacation, and treated a skinned knee, > > would you say it was treated by a amateur? > > Once a doctor, always a doctor. > > The same analogy applies. If you're good enough to be ABLE to make > > money with your photography, and if other ph

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-12 Thread Lon Williamson
I have an iteresting isertion here. My wife does not contribute to PDML. When she has a technical question, she asks me, and I supply for the most part, a PDML-approved answer. She's good. She doesn't sweat the details. She does, however, work hard at composition and decisive moment. She does

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-11 Thread Keith Whaley
frank theriault wrote: > > You're right, Keith, > > I was being tongue in cheek. It was sort of my take on the Python "Argument Sketch" > (and a bad one at that): > > "Ah, if my time is up, why are you still arguing?" > > "I could be doing it on my own time!" > > or words to that effect...

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-11 Thread Dan Scott
On Tuesday, December 10, 2002, at 09:39 PM, frank theriault wrote: Ah, but what if the pro is taking family snapshots on his day off? Is he still a pro? And would the camera he uses be a pro camera? What if he uses the same camera to take those snapshots as he does whilst working? Would i

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-11 Thread Keith Whaley
If you family doctor was on vacation, and treated a skinned knee, would you say it was treated by a amateur? Once a doctor, always a doctor. The same analogy applies. If you're good enough to be ABLE to make money with your photography, and if other photographers consider you a professional, you're

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-11 Thread frank theriault
It's an important question. How could one possibly take a photograph without knowing the answer? -frank Peter Alling wrote: > Only here could someone take a flip remark and complicate it so. (Someone > is thinking > way too much about this). I think the short answer is yes. > -- "The optimi

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-11 Thread frank theriault
Thanks for the brief yet concise explanation, Bruce! I've just never made the connection, but is's ~so~ obvious - pros only use 35mm! You're right, I've never noticed a PJ with a view camera. And, the only pros are PJ's, right? cheers, frank Bruce Dayton wrote: > frank, > > Much simpler tha

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-10 Thread Peter Alling
Only here could someone take a flip remark and complicate it so. (Someone is thinking way too much about this). I think the short answer is yes. At 10:39 PM 12/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: Ah, but what if the pro is taking family snapshots on his day off? Is he still a pro? And would the camera

Re[2]: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
frank, Much simpler than you think. 5FPS = Pro. Nikon = Pro. Canon = Pro. Pentax = Amateur. Minolta = Amateur. Of course, this only works with 35mm because those are the only pro cameras. What's medium format anyway? VBG Bruce Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 7:39:17 PM, you wrote: ft> Ah,

Re: PROS-was:ABORTION-was: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.

2002-12-10 Thread frank theriault
Ah, but what if the pro is taking family snapshots on his day off? Is he still a pro? And would the camera he uses be a pro camera? What if he uses the same camera to take those snapshots as he does whilst working? Would it only be a pro camera while "on the job", but an amateur camera on Sunda