Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts
mike wilson wrote: >> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> mike wilson wrote: >> >>>He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that >>>3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce >>>equal numbers of the same end product before you tell me that >>> it is che

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have seen exactly that in both my own children's shooting habits and my wedding/portrait work. I'm seeing less and less print ordering, but lots of web galleries or computer based slideshows. The digital angle makes this much easier, as the natural medium for it is a computer monitor. The cost

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread pnstenquist
Well put. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > There's nothing wrong with that logic because, odd as it may seem to > old 20th-century farts like you and me, the print is no longer the > preferred medium for viewing photographs,

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread mike wilson
Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > > >>>From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce equal numbers of the same end product be

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Doug Franklin
Mark Roberts wrote: > Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints > and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when > it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger. Same here. And I surely don't need a print of every frame I shoot. The 3,000 shots I took last weekend are going

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Franklin wrote: >Now, why in the world would I want prints of 2,000 photos I don't think >are up to snuff? The only bunch I /might/ want small prints of would >be the ones that survived the first two culls. Sometimes we forget that in the pre-digital world there were a lot of prints made

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread David Savage
At 09:38 AM 15/11/2007, Mark Roberts wrote: >Doug Franklin wrote: > > >Now, why in the world would I want prints of 2,000 photos I don't think > >are up to snuff? The only bunch I /might/ want small prints of would > >be the ones that survived the first two culls. > >Sometimes we forget that in th

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Mark Roberts wrote: > Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints > and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when > it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger. Same here. But I do occasionally make smaller prints too. There's something to be said for a pocket book of photos.

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Roberts wrote: > mike wilson wrote: > > >>> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> mike wilson wrote: >>> >>> He eliminated (many of) those in-camera. The point is still that 3000 files is not the same as 3000 prints or slides. Produce equal numbers of the same en

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Toralf Lund wrote: >I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their >family album now that they've switched to digital. By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've automatically excluded the age group I'm talking about :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Li

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Jim King
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800 > Mark Roberts wrote: > > > Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints > > and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when > > it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger. > > Same here. But I do occasionally make smaller p

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread P. J. Alling
But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is). Jim King wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800 > > >> Mark Roberts wrote: >> >> >>> Personally, I *love* good prints. I love makin

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Adam Maas
Jim King wrote: > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:03:03 -0800 > >> Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> Personally, I *love* good prints. I love making good prints >>> and viewing them. [...] the only time I make a print is when >>> it's going to be 8 x 12 or larger. >> Same here. But I do occasi

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/15/2007 12:23:27 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their family album now that they've switched to digital. - T === I don't agree with everyone that the print will disappear, for t

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Toralf Lund
John Francis wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:56:16AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Toralf Lund wrote: >> >> >>> I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their >>> family album now that they've switched to digital. >>> >> By talking about people who have *

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Toralf Lund
Mark Roberts wrote: > Toralf Lund wrote: > > >> I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their >> family album now that they've switched to digital. >> > > By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've > automatically excluded the age group I'm talkin

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's in the iPhone's address book if they're using it properly. G On Nov 15, 2007, at 11:15 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > If they remember their e-mail address, that is. > > Adam Maas wrote: >> But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch, >> just with a phone and email) you can j

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 08:56:16AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: > Toralf Lund wrote: > > >I don't know. I've heard many people talk about how they miss their > >family album now that they've switched to digital. > > By talking about people who have *switched* to digital you've > automatically ex

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Adam Maas
But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch, just with a phone and email) you can just email it to them ;-) -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: > But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I > don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is). > >

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Francis" Subject: Re: Prints (was: Paid For) > Digital is making inroads at the other end of the age spectrum, too. > My mother (90 a couple of weeks ago) has severe arthritis, and would > find turning the pages in a photo album

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 15, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD >> card into >> a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents >> (providing the >> contents are jpegs.). >

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: Prints (was: Paid For) > On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card >>into >>a slot on the thing and get a slide s

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread P. J. Alling
If they remember their e-mail address, that is. Adam Maas wrote: > But if it's an iPhone (Essentially the same as the iPod Touch, just with a > phone and email) you can just email it to them ;-) > > -Adam > > > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card into >a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents (providing the >contents are jpegs.). Yah, I have a hard disk recorder / DVD with this. I tried it a

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote: >I'm thinking I should run a cable from my computer over to the TV. >The controls aren't that bad on my TV though. >It's kind of strange that it doesn't just start a slide show when a card is >inserted, since there really is no other reason to put one into the slot >than to

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Prints and iPod Touch viewing are different experiences. Both are quite good, however, just different. Godfrey On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:48 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > But if someone really likes a print, you can just give it to them, I > don't think I'd be giving away my iPod, (if I had one that is

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-16 Thread Bruce Dayton
Yes, there will be prints, just like there will be film. My wife is a scrapbooker - for her recent birthday, I got her a new scrapbooking program. But there are many more capabilities than just creating printed pages. You can email a scrapbook to someone else, you can create an html scrapbook to

Re: Prints (was: Paid For)

2007-11-18 Thread David J Brooks
On 11/15/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15/11/07, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >I recently purchased a new plasma television. One can insert an SD card into > >a slot on the thing and get a slide show of the contents (providing the > >contents are jpegs.). > > Yah, I