RE: FA J Lenses

2005-09-04 Thread Jens Bladt
nne Salomonsen Picture with a pre-A lens (2.5/135mm). Out of more than 100 shots (1½ GB of files), only 2 frames came out badly exposed :-). Jens Bladt Arkitekt MAA http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Igor Roshchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. september 2005 20

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-09-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
t support the lenses who have one. Sorry, Jens, this funny explanation does not withstand the test of "F". :-) > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Toralf Lund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 4. september 2005 13:10 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: Re: FA J

RE: FA J Lenses

2005-09-04 Thread Jens Bladt
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 4. september 2005 13:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: FA J Lenses Igor Roshchin wrote: >Jalla Jalla means "faster faster". In Turkey it is a stomach complaint... > > :-) > Yes. I think it might also mean something like "come on&quo

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-09-04 Thread Toralf Lund
Igor Roshchin wrote: Jalla Jalla means "faster faster". In Turkey it is a stomach complaint... :-) Yes. I think it might also mean something like "come on". And there's also a rather good film called "Jalla Jalla" - see http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=237129 Also, th

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-09-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin" Subject: Re: FA J Lenses The Almighty Google told me: ``Jalla Jalla means "faster faster". In Turkey it is a stomach complaint...'' The feeling I get looking at pictures taken with Minolta glass. HAR!! WW

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-09-02 Thread Igor Roshchin
The Almighty Google told me: ``Jalla Jalla means "faster faster". In Turkey it is a stomach complaint...'' :-) Igor > Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 05:23:51 -0700 > From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So why don't you explain it ... > > Shel > > > > [Orig

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-09-02 Thread Shel Belinkoff
So why don't you explain it ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: Toralf Lund > >Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? > > > > > To repeat something I've said on the list earlier, I believe the "J" is > short for "jalla", but that may not mean a lot to most of you... > > - T

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Cool ... when are you there? I'm near Berkeley, so getting there's not an issue. While I know the store, I'm unsure how far it is from the WC BART station. Is it a reasonable walk? I didn't realize Reed's carried Pentax gear. Every time I called asking if an item was in stock, I was told it wa

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread John Celio
>>Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down >>from the much-admired FA20-35. Otherwise, it's very good for the price. Does that mean it's a very good lens? Shel, what you should do is bring your camera into Reed's (I don't recall where in the Bay Area you live, but Reed's is in Walnut

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Does that mean it's a very good lens? Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Celio > >>Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down > >>from the much-admired FA20-35. > Otherwise, it's very good for the price.

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread John Celio
Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down from the much-admired FA20-35. True, but it's a much better performer than its lightweight construction would lead you to believe. Agreed. It's by far my favorite lens on my D. My only complaint is the lack of an aperture ring, meaning I can't

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread Mark Roberts
David Oswald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? > >Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down from the much-admired >FA20-35. True, but it's a much better performer than its lightweight construction would lead you to belie

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-31 Thread Toralf Lund
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? To repeat something I've said on the list earlier, I believe the "J" is short for "jalla", but that may not mean a lot to most of you... - T

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-30 Thread David Savage
Yes & Yes. Dave On 8/30/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? > > > Shel > > >

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Aug 29, 2005, at 11:16 PM, David Oswald wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down from the much- admired FA20-35. I would expect it to be. It's $160 vs $499. Godfrey

Re: FA J Lenses

2005-08-29 Thread David Oswald
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Inexpensive consumer glass, mediocre image quality? Well, the FA-J 18-35 is definately a step down from the much-admired FA20-35. The FA-J's were introduced as the first autofocus Pentax lenses to lack an aperture ring. This was a cost saving measure, though probab

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:41 AM, Scott Loveless wrote: This brings me back to the FA J. Why not pick up the newer 18-35? All hearsay as I've never touched an 18-35, but several people have remarked to me that they had one and sold it as it wasn't very sharp or satisfying to them with their f

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Thank you, sir. Much appreciated. On 6/19/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Thanks, Mark. In order to confirm or deny Bill's opinion, was that > >with your *istD or a film body? > > ist-D. > > > >On 6/19/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROT

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thanks, Mark. In order to confirm or deny Bill's opinion, was that >with your *istD or a film body? ist-D. >On 6/19/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >Why not pick up the newer 18-35? >> >

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Scott Loveless
Thanks, Mark. In order to confirm or deny Bill's opinion, was that with your *istD or a film body? On 6/19/05, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Why not pick up the newer 18-35? > >Stan's is devoid of reviews on the FA J series. Do any of y

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why not pick up the newer 18-35? >Stan's is devoid of reviews on the FA J series. Do any of you have >experience using the FA J series in general or the FA J 18-35 >specifically? If so, what are your thoughts? I've used the FA-J 18-35 once, last year

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Margus Männik
Hi, I've used FAJ 18-35 with my Z-1p. Not a top lens, but works well for the money (come on, it's dirt cheap - I paid ~150USD for it new). Use closed down to f8 diaphragm and original sunshade and it works OK. I've also found, that good polarizer also enhances this lens quite a bit. BR, Marg

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Thibouille" Subject: Re: FA J lenses I heard it is quite deceiving and very soft at 18mm. I had the 18-35 for a while, it came with my istD. I let it go, because I don't like zooms on general principles. I didn't notice any real iss

Re: FA J lenses

2005-06-19 Thread Thibouille
I heard it is quite deceiving and very soft at 18mm. That said, the shop near me sells it at 200 euros which is stupidly low IMO but is it enough to buy a lemon? dunno ... 2005/6/19, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Howdy, gang! I actually have something to say that's on topic for > once. (

Re: "Digital lenses" (WAS: Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist))

2003-06-12 Thread Mark Cassino
At 03:44 PM 6/10/2003 +0200, Pål Jensen wrote: This could also be a factor behind why Pentax would limit 20+ year old lenses on the *ist D. Perhaps they aren't realy suited for a DSLR? Another matter is that there are probably other criterias in optical performance that is more important in a le

Re: "Digital lenses" (WAS: Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist))

2003-06-10 Thread Dag T
I can´t see why, but I haven´t been around long enough to remember the previous discussions. Contrast and even distortion is possible to fix by software, in the camera if the lens characteristics are stored there or in the lens CPU. Chromatic aberrations are more difficult to cope with, as wel

Re: "Digital lenses" (WAS: Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist))

2003-06-10 Thread Peter Alling
You're reaching, and you it's unbecoming. The argument about special digital lenses was disposed of long ago. At 03:44 PM 6/10/03 +0200, you wrote: Jens wrote: > Hi Pål > Speaking about digital phoitogrphy - isn't the limits to the possible > resolution set be the CCD, rather than by the lens? >

Re: "Digital lenses" (WAS: Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist))

2003-06-10 Thread Alin Flaider
I believe digital lenses is Sigma marketing wording made up for certain lenses (particularly wide angles) designed to project parallel rays of light on the focus plane. Apparently the industry is close to overcome this restriction with sensors less sensitive to incident angle of lig

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist) > > I must therefore concude that the MZ-60 is a high-end body because disposable cameras starts at $10. Kind of puts to rest your credibility regarding exposure accuracy William Robb

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-09 Thread Peter Alling
If you want to believe that so be it. At 07:26 PM 6/9/03 +0200, you wrote: Peter wrote: > The only way you can make this case is to assume that a camera that costs > between > $1000.00 and $2000.00 is an entry level product. A Pentax 67 at B&H goes > for a little > more than $2000.00 and a Penta

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-09 Thread Peter Alling
The only way you can make this case is to assume that a camera that costs between $1000.00 and $2000.00 is an entry level product. A Pentax 67 at B&H goes for a little more than $2000.00 and a Pentax 645N II is a little less than $1900.00 the next most expensive Film camera sold by Pentax is th

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-09 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov
Paal wrote: > I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly entry level and > that there will be no higher end FA-J lenses. Dario Bonazza wrote: > > I won't believe that for one second. When you (Pentax) remove > diaphragm simulator from top end models (like the *ist D > undoubtably currently

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-09 Thread Pål Jensen
Rüdiger wrote: > I do not believe that either. I have the impression, that a lot people on > the list > do not see what just happed at Pentax. Pentax means it can maximise > the selling with incompatiblity. So if not only the MZ-60, *ist, *istD (and > the > two comming *ists next year) will not ne

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-08 Thread Dario Bonazza 2
I won't believe that for one second. When you (Pentax) remove diaphragm simulator from top end models (like the *ist D undoubtably currently is), removing aperture ring from your (Pentax) lens line is just a matter of time. Dario Bonazza www.aohc.it > REPLY: > I've been told that the FA-J lenses

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
Sorry, but I was an optimist about K mount compatibility on the last round, after reading the *ist manual I really thought that the lens mount might be crippled because of software not hardware. I was wrong. Yes I would like to believe that the FAJ lenses are only for the low end, that the right

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Alan Chan
Are you sure the other Gods do understand English? :-) The Gods in question speak fluent japanese :o) Then the Gods must be punishing us PDML members by not praying in Japanese. :-) regards, Alan Chan _ Tired of spam? Get advanced

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Brendan
When a situation like this presents it'self. You hope Pal is right, the averages are in out favour and you Pray to every God there is ( and then some, leave no stone unturned ) that it will only be a low end lens. --- Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wouldn't give thanks until this is

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Peter Alling
I wouldn't give thanks until this is proven out. So far Pål only bats in US major league averages when predicting. At 04:01 PM 6/7/03 -0400, you wrote: Thank GOD, and all the other Gods for that. --- Pål_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly > ent

Re: FA-J lenses (WAS: Re: *ist)

2003-06-07 Thread Brendan
Thank GOD, and all the other Gods for that. --- Pål_Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've been told that the FA-J lenses are strictly > entry level and that there will be no higher end > FA-J lenses. > > Pål > __ Post