Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread John Forbes
Could it not be that you see more cheapo cards because far more cheap cards are sold than expensive cards? Unless you know the sales ratios, you can't form any conclusions at all from the number of cards coming through your workshop. John On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 03:20:59 +0100, Shel Belinkoff

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 19, 2005, at 8:13, John Forbes wrote: Could it not be that you see more cheapo cards because far more cheap cards are sold than expensive cards? Unless you know the sales ratios, you can't form any conclusions at all from the number of cards coming through your workshop. The

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Gonz
Yup, I was thinking the same thing. rg John Forbes wrote: Could it not be that you see more cheapo cards because far more cheap cards are sold than expensive cards? Unless you know the sales ratios, you can't form any conclusions at all from the number of cards coming through your

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Frantisek
Consider this: http://www.datarescue.com/laboratory/cfcompare/ picture comparison of insides. Frantisek

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Once again the consumer gets screwed. It seems we can't trust the brand names and the hype about quality ... Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message] From: Frantisek Consider this: http://www.datarescue.com/laboratory/cfcompare/ picture comparison of insides.

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread P. J. Alling
Yep, you'll never know what's in a sealed package, especially one that's not meant to be opened. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Once again the consumer gets screwed. It seems we can't trust the brand names and the hype about quality ... Shel Am I paranoid or perceptive? [Original Message]

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread John Celio
Could it not be that you see more cheapo cards because far more cheap cards are sold than expensive cards? Unless you know the sales ratios, you can't form any conclusions at all from the number of cards coming through your workshop. You are correct, and I did mean to address that in my

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Glen
At 02:15 PM 9/19/2005, Frantisek wrote: Consider this: http://www.datarescue.com/laboratory/cfcompare/ picture comparison of insides. Frantisek Okay, I'm an electronics tech. I looked at that site, and it claims that with merely a quick glance that you can tell that the build quality of

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: This sparks a memory from the early days of Apple's Macintosh. SJ was riding heard on the project like an expectant hen ... the guy laying out the logic board was having trouble with RFI and cross-talk. SJ heads over to his bench one

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: This sparks a memory from the early days of Apple's Macintosh. SJ was riding heard on the project like an expectant hen ... the guy laying out the logic board was having trouble with RFI and cross-talk.

RE: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread Bob W
This sparks a memory from the early days of Apple's Macintosh. SJ was [...] When I was service manager at a high end audio shop in [...] Of course, it needed a *lot* more than that to become usable... I've just finished reading this:

Re: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-19 Thread John Forbes
And in the other direction you could argue that the expensive cards that professionals and enthusiasts buy will probably get a lot more use than the cheap cards bought by the ps brigade. So you're back to square one! John On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:14:41 +0100, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-18 Thread John Celio
Are all SD cards more or less equal, given storage volume? Oh god no! Not even close. There are some very important things to know about memory cards before you go and buy one, but unfortunately these things can be hard to find out from the memory manufacturers. One of the things I do at

RE: The Truth about Memory Cards (was: Re: Film for my digital camera)

2005-09-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi John ... Thanks for posting this info. Shel [Original Message] From: John Celio Are all SD cards more or less equal, given storage volume? Oh god no! Not even close. There are some very important things to know about memory cards before you go and buy one, but unfortunately

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Maas
Barry Rice wrote: Hey Folks, I've ordered an *ist-DS from Buydig, and will see if my experiences are easier than Shel's. It turns out that I really need to hit the ground running with this digital camera (I've got a very limited time to get a bunch of images together for a book I'm working

RE: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Barry, I hope you don't have any of the hassles I had. My new DS is scheduled for delivery later today BIG smile, fingers crossed SD cards are more or less equal. The biggest difference is the speed in most cases. The DS can take advantage of faster than standard cards up to, I believe, a

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Some cards are faster than others. This has some meaning to the Ds. I use a D and haven't noticed an appreciable difference between my fast card and slow one, but the Ds can to a point, (I don't remember how fast however). Yes you can change cards in the field, just be careful, I got to play

RE: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread pnstenquist
As a footnote to what Shel said, I can add that firewire card readers are very fast. I paid about $50 US for mine, and it will download a 1 gig 80X card in less than two minutes. Paul Hi Barry, I hope you don't have any of the hassles I had. My new DS is scheduled for delivery later

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
All SD cards are more or less equal - Sandisk is good. Yes, once the disk fills up (or, really, at any time if you want a new blank disk for a series of shots which would not fit on the partially-filled disk) just remove it and insert a new one. You can just re-insert the partially-filled disk

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Larry Levy
Barry Rice asked: Are all SD cards more or less equal, given storage volume? (I see BH has some 1Gig Sandisks from $88, which looks ok.) I have downloaded the pdf manual on the DS, and estimate 1Gig would hold about 86 RAW images. If this disk fills up in the field, can I slip in a new one,

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are all SD cards more or less equal, given storage volume? (I see BH has some 1Gig Sandisks from $88, which looks ok.) I have downloaded the pdf manual on the DS, and estimate 1Gig would hold about 86 RAW images. If this disk fills up in the field, can I slip in a new one, just like

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I knew the difference was great, but never realized - or checked - just how great. Wow! Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Don't even think of trying to efficiently download 1G cards with USB 1.1 ... average transfer rate with a Sandisk Ultra II card is 6.5Mbytes per

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I use 30x as the speed difference in practice ([EMAIL PROTECTED] vs [EMAIL PROTECTED] is technically 40x difference, but 30x seems about right in empirical timings - I think USB 2.0 makes up a little ground on efficiency of getting a transfer started). Godfrey On Sep 14, 2005, at 10:41

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Barry Rice
Hey y'all, Thanks for this information. It was much as I expected, but it is good to hear. I've ordered two 1Gig Utra II Sandisk cards. Now my next task will be to keep this camera out of my wife's hands so I can in good conscience deduct this camera purchase as a business expense! This, and

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread David Savage
G'day Barry, All my cards are Sandisk Ultra II's, and I'm very happy with them (BTW I'm using CF cards in an *ist D). Yep, it's just like changing film. No problems at all with changing out a full card for an empty one. HTH Dave On 9/14/05, Barry Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Folks,

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread Glen
I have a 1Gig ProMaster card, and I have no idea what speed it is. I don't shoot in continuous frame advance mode, so I don't notice any slowness anyway. I haven't bought a dedicated card reader yet, so I can't vouch for how long it takes to dump a full card into my computer that way. I can

Re: Film for my digital camera

2005-09-14 Thread E.R.N. Reed
David Savage wrote: G'day Barry, All my cards are Sandisk Ultra II's, and I'm very happy with them (BTW I'm using CF cards in an *ist D). Most of mine, ditto. As are two SDs I use in my Optio 550.