RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-20 Thread Bob W
Your bike may be similar in many respects to those, but I expect the engineering that went into producing it is greatly improved, even if the appearance hasn't changed all that much. Here's an interesting article called Myths and Milestones in Bicycle Evolution:

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip If I was to do any real long distance riding I'd flip my stem snip Mark! (snigger) - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, and as a further note, my bike uses pretty much the same technology as those British touring bikes, only real difference is the modern threadless headset (which isn't really an improvement for road bikes), the fact I use a track hub threaded for a

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-18 Thread Adam Maas
mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, and as a further note, my bike uses pretty much the same technology as those British touring bikes, only real difference is the modern threadless headset (which isn't really an improvement for road bikes), the fact I use a track

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/18 Fri PM 12:20:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness mike wilson wrote: From: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, and as a further note, my bike uses

RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Bob W
English cycle touring isn’t so very different. I'm sure I've seen some of those same people on the same bikes enjoying a cake stop at the West Indian café in Island Gardens. http://london.metblogs.com/archives/1904/06/from_the_island.phtml -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread mike wilson
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/05/16 Wed PM 09:53:15 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city:

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: graywolf Somehow, me thinks, the world has changed a bit since that film was made. The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. OTOH ... Google gives you Results *1* - *10* of about *1,550,000* for *cycle

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread graywolf
And there are no cars on the roads either? Bob W wrote: English cycle touring isn=92t so very different. I'm sure I've seen some of those same people on the same bikes enjoying a cake stop at the West Indian caf=E9 in Island Gardens. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding:

RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Bob W
Sure. None of them are moving though! -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 17 May 2007 17:05 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness And there are no

RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Bob W
The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear spandex or a helmet. My bicycle is a steel one and wouldn't look particularly out of place in that film (except for the 21 indexed

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread P. J. Alling
Bob W wrote: I switch between sneering at my younger self, and horror at what I've become! Mark! Bob W wrote: The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Doug Brewer
Bob W wrote: The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear spandex or a helmet. My bicycle is a steel one and wouldn't look particularly out of place in that film (except for

RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob W The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear spandex or a helmet. My bicycle is a steel one and wouldn't look particularly out of place in that

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 17, 2007, at 12:22, Bob W wrote: British cycle touring is a bit of a time warp. Some people really enjoy the style - here is a ride that my uncle has coordinated for the past few years: http://www.3speedtour.com/ (Takes place in Wisconsin/Minnesota along Lake Pepin/aka the wide

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Norm Baugher
Oh Bob, how absolutely splendid that video was... I'll tell you what, those guys are definitely crazy - 75 miles of cycling into oncoming traffic. Norm Bob W wrote: Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city:

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread frank theriault
On 5/16/07, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0Zjn3eB9k Well you ain't seen nuthin' yet. Here's how London cyclists do it:

RE: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0Zjn3eB9k Well you ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Adam Maas
John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear spandex or a helmet. My bicycle is a steel one and wouldn't

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Adam Maas
John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W The costume certainly has; spandex aerodynamic helmets, and bicycle engineering has made incredible improvements. I'm not so sure about that. I don't wear spandex or a helmet. My bicycle is a steel one and wouldn't

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread graywolf
Well, I use the 3-speed style handlebars myself. Of course I only started riding when I was 9-10. I used to believe all the bull put out by the hardcore enthusiasts, but now I go by what my old fat body tells me. Adam Maas wrote: John Sessoms wrote: From: Bob W The costume certainly has;

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-17 Thread Adam Maas
Racing fits are bloody uncomfortable, with the bars often as much as 5 below seat height. It's very aerodynamic and restricts breathing. Racers run them because most of them need the aero improvements to keep up with the guys with incredible lungs. I run midway between the 'French fit' (bars

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-16 Thread graywolf
Somehow, me thinks, the world has changed a bit since that film was made. Bob W wrote: Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0Zjn3eB9k Well you ain't seen nuthin' yet. Here's how London cyclists do it:

Re: OT: 2-wheeled journey of hell into the heart of darkness

2007-05-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Priceless, thanks Bob! G On May 16, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Bob W wrote: Many of you may remember this video of New York bike messengers cycling through the city: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0Zjn3eB9k Well you ain't seen nuthin' yet. Here's how London cyclists do it: