In a message dated 11/15/2009 7:29:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
> follow but rather to respectfully ignore
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> ===
> I kill filed JCO years ago. Lots of us did.
>
You've hit the nail on the head here, Ecke.
I'd dare to add on more consideration. Uber expensive gear of any
kind serves at least one great service. It liberates surplus funds
from people with more than they know what to do with, and
redistributes it to others more needy. In this case the manu
: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital - the "all vinyl is noisy" myth,
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On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:41 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
your staying from the point which is that with a $1000 phono setup
you cant say you are always or nearly always "record limited" sonically.
On Nov 15, 2009, at 14:36 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
glad
word
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2009/11/16 Rob Studdert :
> Ignorance is bliss, but bliss can be expensive.
MARK!
And with that, I'm outta' here.
DS
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On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:54 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
> can build some damn good gear but its not state
> of the art stuff. try building
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On Nov 15, 2009, at 14:08 , Rob Studdert wrote:
Ignorance is bliss, but bliss can be expensive.
Nice!
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On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:54 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
can build some damn good gear but its not state
of the art stuff. try building a cartrdige as
good as a $5000 cartridge for $5000 yourself,
ditto for Turntables CD players, etc. Its just
not possib
On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> look up the term STATE OF THE ART. sure hobbiest
> can build some damn good gear but its not state
> of the art stuff. try building a cartrdige as
> good as a $5000 cartridge for $5000 yourself,
> ditto for Turntables CD players, etc. Its just
> not possible
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:26 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
state of the art audio gear for low cost,
even if you build it yourself. acutally
its practically impossible to build state
of the art audio gear yourself, there
is too much overhead in R&D and its
not econ
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On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
> state
On 16/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> you seem to misunderstand, you cant get
> state of the art audio gear for low cost,
> even if you build it yourself. acutally
> its practically impossible to build state
> of the art audio gear yourself, there
> is too much overhead in R&D and its
> not econo
A loudspeaker by itself is not a good judge of what it's cone
transmits into the air.
On Nov 15, 2009, at 13:10 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
No it comes out matter of factly on things that ARE matter of fact,
why present facts as opinions? That doesn't serve any purpose other
than creating confus
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On 16/11/2009, Bob W wrote:
> I think he's been mostly correct i
On 16/11/2009, Bob W wrote:
> I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
> misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
> away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome. I think we
> should all adopt a general rule of m
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:41 , J.C. O'Connell wrote:
your staying from the point which is that with a $1000 phono setup
you cant say you are always or nearly always "record limited"
sonically.
$1000 is not nearly enough budget to get the full sound quality of
most records, so you are still play
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On 16/11/2009, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>
> >Do you ever actually read what anyone else writes John? Serious question.
>
> Rob, have you ever read JCO's participation in any other threads?
> Serious question.
> ;-)
OK, I admit, I was a bit bored re-working on tedious old MS pub f
That's the beauty of it, I just screw on a longer set of legs and use
a helicopter and live view... MUAHAHAHAHA ]=)
2009/11/15 Joseph McAllister :
> O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of the
> time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> On Nov 1
From: "Bob W"
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been saying. Unfortunately this just makes him hammer
away at the same message over and over, which is rather tiresome.
Perhaps because the *message* that's come through is "My way is th
O'Yeah? Our three leggers can be set up on uneven ground in 1/100th of
the time your behemoth can be drug up the hill!
:-)
On Nov 15, 2009, at 02:40 , eckinator wrote:
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... "your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion" I know this i
2009/11/15 J.C. O'Connell :
> And when you ignore, it just maintains ignorance.
Yes and I fail to see the fault with that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance
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> anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
> follow but rather to respectfully ignore
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
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> damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery...
Mark!
(sounds like a closing quote to me...)
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damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... "your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion" I know this
Rob Studdert wrote:
>Do you ever actually read what anyone else writes John? Serious question.
Rob, have you ever read JCO's participation in any other threads?
Serious question.
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> anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to
> follow but rather to respectfully ignore
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> ===
> I kill filed JCO years ago. Lots of us did.
>
I think he's been mostly correct in this thread, but other people have
misconstrued what he's been
In a message dated 11/15/2009 3:38:18 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
eckina...@gmail.com writes:
anyhoo please enjoy your thread, maybe it just isn't mine to follow
but rather to respectfully ignore
Cheers
Ecke
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Marnie aka Doe
2009/11/15 J.C. O'Connell :
> ownership has nothing to do with this. I don't own a $100K turntable,
> but that doesn't mean they don't exist or my or your turntables are just
> as good as the $100K turntables. You can have opinions based on
> experinences and auditions, ownerships isnt a requiremen
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On 15/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> ownership has nothing to do with this. I don't own a $100K turntable,
> but that doesn't mean they don't exist or my or your turntables are just
> as good as the $100K turntables. You can have opinions based on
> experinences and auditions, ownerships isnt a
f
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damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... "your gear isn't good
enough to entitle you to an opinion&quo
dert
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On 15/11/2009, Tom C wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I don't understand the ABX testing you mentioned (what is it?),
Hi Tom et al,
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Rob,
I don't understand the ABX testing you mentioned (what is it?), but I do
know that quite a bit of the higher end gear is made to appeal to the
ego and I agree with your point. So is
damn... what a bunch of aimless wanton wankery... "your gear isn't
good enough to entitle you to an opinion" I know this isn't what was
said but it is what transpires... good enough grabs goosebumps from
the groove and gets them there... I know passion can take you to
extremes and we are all gearhe
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On 15/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>
On 15/11/2009, Tom C wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I don't understand the ABX testing you mentioned (what is it?),
Hi Tom et al,
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABX_test
> Yes I do believe that spending more money on a given product may yield
> improvement in quality, but there's both a practical ce
Rob,
I don't understand the ABX testing you mentioned (what is it?), but I
do know that quite a bit of the higher end gear is made to appeal to
the ego and I agree with your point. So is a $10,000 turntable 10X
better than a $1000 turntable, or a $100K turntable 10X better than a
$10K turntable?.
On 15/11/2009, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
> Not that Onkyo and Pioneer are junk, but they are
> are a long long away from full vinyl reproduction
> pinnacle, read my post and comprehend it, I said a
> $10,000 turntable doesn't sound as good as the
> best, currently around $100,000. By deduction a
> $1
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Reading for comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
From: "J.C. O'Connell&q
Reading for comprehension doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
From: "J.C. O'Connell"
And NOPE the limiting factor in nearly all cases for
vinyl playback quality isnt the record, its nearly always
the turntable/tonearm/cartridge setup.
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Exactly right.
> What about if you DON'T have the right equipment? You have to decide
> if you want to spend the money on audiophile stere
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From: "J.C. O'Connell"
> I forgot I had this turntable demo video online. I don't hear no
Exactly right.
> What about if you DON'T have the right equipment? You have to decide if you
> want to spend the money on audiophile stereo equipment ... or do you want to
> spend it on something else?
>
> Someone was bandying about the number $2500 for a good vinyl reproduction
> system. Gotta'
From: "J.C. O'Connell"
I forgot I had this turntable demo video online. I don't hear no stinkin
scratches,
tics, or pops on this demo video (not even one):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnqv2XjZVYs
(turn on your video annotations if not already)
OTOH, there's an audible hiss throughout the v
I forgot I had this turntable demo video online. I don't hear no stinkin
scratches,
tics, or pops on this demo video (not even one):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnqv2XjZVYs
(turn on your video annotations if not already)
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