Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Apilado
I saw the Concord come in to Portland, OR back in 90's. The tower called it "speed bird". I did have a camera. They offered a flight towards Hawaii where the plane would reach mach 1. There were few takers for the $1000 a seat flight, so it was lowered to $500 a seat. Had I had the bucks I woul

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
formation. Bill - Original Message - From: "Jim Apilado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 9:56 AM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > I saw the Concord come in to Portland, OR back in 90's. The tower called i

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I suspect that you would have been disappointed in the Mach 1 flight. While there was a lot of shaking and buffeting in the early supersonic planes, in modern aircraft it is a nonevent that you can tell only by the mach meter. (I flew in fighter jets that could easily breadk Mach 1, and I flew ov

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, living here in London (England!) I see it quite often, most recently this weekend. Even though it's quite a commonplace sight, people still stop to look. It's an amazing piece of work and a great pity it's on the way out. I wish they'd sell it to Virgin so it could keep flying. I first saw it

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >The radio call "speed bird" would signify it was a British Airways Concorde. >Whereas most airlines use the company name and flight number, for example >"United 1234", British Airways uses "speedbird", as in "Speedbird 1234". > >Just a bit of useless infor

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
"Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >The radio call "speed bird" would signify it was

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Apilado
level disappears. Jim A. > From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Stanley, Powers & Matyola > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 13:11:31 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Resent

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Peter Popp
It really is an impressive looking plane, isn't it? A few years ago now, when I was in graduate school, the group that I worked in built remote sensors for measuring mobile-source NOx emissions. I had the good fortune of travelling to Heathrow, at the request of BA, to set our instrument up at

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >JJ tells of some radio chatter between pilots and air traffic control >that he heard. An SR-71 Blackbird called to request clearance as it had >entered this particular ATC area, and asked if it could have flight level >670. The controller replied with a sarcastic

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
Probably not, unless the SR-71 had a transponder turned on. Bill - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Cotty <[EMAI

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I like that story, and it's probably true. > >BTW, the term "flight level" begins at 18,000 feet. Up until that altitude, >altimeters are set to closest local setting, but above 18,000 altimeters are >set to standard pressure of 29.92. Thanks Bill. Looks

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >In my current life I work for NOAA, building and operating instruments on >NASA high-altitude research planes. We often work out of military >facilities because they can support these specialized aircraft. A few >years ago we were at Edwards AFB in Calif

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Herb Chong
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due > to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I > think) and they ha

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread John Francis
> > I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due > to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I > think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. > > Anyone know if that's true or an urban legend? (You mean "high flashpoin

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
flight engineer who looked after the SR-71s that NASA used at Edwards AFB, California). Really? You? Simon -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > &

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Bill Owens
- Original Message - From: "Simon King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Hi John > >(You mean "high flashpoint" > Thanks, I d

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
ctober 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting - Original Message - From: "Simon King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 10:28 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Hi

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread John Francis
> > >(This information comes from a retired flight engineer who looked after the > SR-71s that NASA used at Edwards AFB, California). > Really? You? Nope. Someone I know from another usenet newsgroup. The closest I've been to a Blackbird is watching one fly overhead as I was leaving San Diego t

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Simon King
lightsim. It's one plane I'd *really* like to fly in. Simon -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 3 October 2003 12:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > > >(This information comes from a r

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread Butch Black
I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. Anyone know if that's true or an urban legend? Simon I believe that it is true. I rem

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-02 Thread John Francis
> different fuel then any other military plane, I'm not sure if it was because > of high flight temps or the ambient temps and lack of oxygen at their > cruising altitude. Well, it was lots of things. But a major one was to stop the fuel boiling away at the operating temperatures; the fuel was al

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 2/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due >to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I >think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. > >Anyone know if that's true or an urban l

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Bob Walkden a écrit: Hi, living here in London (England!) I see it quite often, most recently this weekend. Even though it's quite a commonplace sight, people still stop to look. It's an amazing piece of work and a great pity it's on the way out. I wish they'd sell it to Virgin so it could keep f

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >>I once heard that SR-71s actually leak gas on the tarmac before takeoff due >>to the seals being designed for flight temperature (over 550c degrees I >>think) and they had to develop new low flashpoint fuel for it. >> >>Anyone know if that's true or an ur

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread graywolf
Interesting saying. It goes back a ways. You joined the army, did your 30 years, and they bought you a farm. It was about the only way poor people could get land. So "bought the farm" came to mean your service was over. How far back dose it go, to the Roman Legion at least. However, I think the

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread graywolf
A hovering Harrier is the loudest thing I've ever heard, at least that went on and on and on and on... (GRIN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: << LOL Surely the Vulcan will be missed by many of us that have taken part in this thread. I have never *felt* anything remotely as loud as that when it point

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Peter Popp
This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on is the NASA ER-2 (essentially a U2 "R" model with less sophisticated electronics). The gro

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread John Francis
> > This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say > I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. To bring it back onto topic, somewhat: A few years ago a SR-71 was supposed to be making a low, slow pass over Moffett Field as part of their airshow. (It wasn't exactly a s

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I have also greatly enjoyed this thread Peter Popp wrote: > This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, > as far as off-topic threads go.

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Cotty
On 3/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >The compound used to relight the engines at altitude in an emergency on >the ER-2 (and U2) is hydrazine. A safety briefing is necessary every >time you visit Dryden to work, and being aware of the alarm that sounds >in the event of a hydrazine leak is one

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-03 Thread Peter Alling
Hydrazine will kill you in incredibly small amounts. At 09:15 AM 10/3/03 -0600, you wrote: This will be my last post on this subject, but let me say I have really enjoyed it, as far as off-topic threads go. One of the planes that we (at NOAA) have had the good fortune to fly our instruments on

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
I worked as a drag racing crew chief in the seventies on a super fuel funny car. I occasionally added 2% hydrazine to our nitromethane/alcohol fuel mixture (90% nitromethane, 8% alcohol, 2% hydrazine). Our Chrysler hemi powered Corvette set a few mph records with that mix. The best was 237 mph in 6

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-04 Thread Keith Whaley
J.H.C.! 237 mph in 6.35 seconds? That's awesome _today_, according to ME! Most Incredible! Twice as fast as I 'drove' my old Piper Cub! keith Paul Stenquist wrote: > > I worked as a drag racing crew chief in the seventies on a super fuel > funny car. I occasionally added 2% hydrazine to our ni

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Anders Hultman" Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Is this some kind of steerable hot air ballon? No such thing. They go where the wind takes them. Some of the manufacturers are putting steering vents on, but their sole functio

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >>Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. We use a Squirrel for filming >>big fires, major road accidents etc which means sitting in the cold with >>the door off. I don't mind that but I avoid anything else where I can. > >Is this some kind of steerable

RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-05 Thread Anders Hultman
Cotty: LOL. My bad juxtaposition of sentences I'm afraid. That first paragraph should read: Hot air balloon, that's more my cup of tea. For filming big fires, major road accidents etc we use a Squirrel (helicopter) which means sitting in the cold with the door off. I don't mind that but I avoid a

Re: OT:No camera=first Concord siting

2003-10-06 Thread Peter Jordan
CTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: RE: OT:No camera=first Concord siting > Cotty: > > >LOL. My bad juxtaposition of sentences I'm afraid. That first paragraph > >should read: > > > >Hot air balloon, that's more