Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread mike wilson
> On 16 March 2021 at 17:44 John wrote: > > > My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version. > > I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to > fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it. > > The question is how to

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread P. J. Alling
rs are the lawyers. I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the last surviving species. bill -Original Message- From: Alistair Lax Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in t

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread John
My guess is Pentax would have to have sourced a modified version. I don't think Pentax could continue to use a part *KNOWING* it was likely to fail. Nor do I think they would even if they could get away with it. The question is how to find out whether a used K-70 has the "good" solenoid befor

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-16 Thread John
surviving species. bill -Original Message- From: Alistair Lax Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Ken Waller
The only winners are the lawyers. -Original Message- >From: Alistair Lax >Sent: Mar 15, 2021 12:20 PM >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML > >The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but >it appears unclear how much, if at all,

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread mike wilson
> On 15 March 2021 at 15:31 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > > On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill wrote: > > > >  > >>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: > >>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and > >>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rul

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 15 Mar 2021, at 18:15, Bill wrote: > > On 3/15/2021 12:08 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >> The only winners are the lawyers. > > I'm sure when the world ends, the lawyers will beat out cockroaches as the > last surviving species. Mitch McConnell will outlast them all -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Di

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill
t: Re: Rejoined PDML The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some q

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
Having spent a few hours looking at the Pentax forums it appears that the original white Japanese solenoid was discontinued and was replaced with a green Chinese one which was problematic. As far as I can work out, Pentax is still using a green Chinese solenoid. Therefore the key question, whic

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill
On 3/15/2021 10:20 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the pr

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
The K-30, K-50 and K-70 are all named in the class action lawsuit, but it appears unclear how much, if at all, the K-70 is affected. There's a lot of internet chatter including from people don't even have a K-70, some people who seem to have had the problem, and some quoting a Pentax representa

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill
Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential probl

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Henk Terhell
Makes it a lot easier to submit to PUG! Henk Op 2021-03-15 om 16:09 schreef Ralf R Radermacher: Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't wan

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 15 Mar 2021, at 15:24, Bill wrote: > >  >>> On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: >>> Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and >>> Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles >>> of territory! As you noted, he spent mo

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bob Pdml
time reviewing his campaigns and >> attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. >> John in Brisbane >> -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, >> 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: >> Re: Rejoin

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Bill
On 3/14/2021 21:07:40, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Having read much of Napoleon's memoirs, as dictated to Las Cases and Bertrand, I feel he would never have been content to rule 10.5 square miles of territory!  As you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to justify

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread John
you noted, he spent more time reviewing his campaigns and attempting to justify his failures, while yearning to get back to France. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML Wa

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2021-03-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 15.03.21 um 11:48 schrieb Alistair Lax: Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month

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2021-03-15 Thread Bill
On 3/15/2021 8:23 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill: The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014 and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the slightest wis

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-15 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 15.03.21 um 14:57 schrieb Bill: The K3 is still an excellent performer in the APS-C class After a *istDS, a K10D, a K20D, a K-7 and a K-5, I've got my K-3 in 2014 and still love it to bits. Never had a DSLR that long without the slightest wish to upgrade. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - K

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2021-03-15 Thread Bill
The K3III should be along soon, but apparently there have been interuptions in the parts supply that is slowing it down. It is not going to be an inexpensive camera, but one can anticipate K3 bodies hitting the used market upon the release of the new camera. The K3 is still an excellent performer

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2021-03-15 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks - another consideration. Having thought about the Aperture Block problem overnight (or more accurately during the night) I decided that I didn't want a camera that began with a potential problem - especially one that would probably appear a month after the warranty ended. K-70 order canc

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2021-03-14 Thread Rick Womer
Welcome back Alastair! I went from the istD to the K-10D to the K-7 and then to the K-5 (which I’m still using almost 10 years later). The K-5 has a higher-resolution sensor with =much= better low-light performance than the K-7; and the colors are almost as good as those of the K-10. My wife h

RE: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-14 Thread jcoyle
rance. John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Bob Pdml Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 10:11 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Rejoined PDML Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let alone who was there. Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retir

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-14 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks - I came across those posts and the instructions, which I downloaded, but hopefully it won't come to that. Alistair On 14/03/2021 08:31 pm, Henk Terhell wrote: There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue and even instructions how to replace the solenoid your

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-14 Thread Henk Terhell
There are definitely some threads at Pentax Forums devoted to this issue and even instructions how to replace the solenoid yourself. How to detect this issue: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/193-pentax-k-70/402049-how-detect-aperture-block-failure-stuck-solenoid-pentax-k-70-a.html Henk Op 2

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2021-03-14 Thread P. J. Alling
The survey at Pentax Fora included the K-70 and no one reported a failure.  So you're probably safe with a K-70. On 3/14/2021 6:31 AM, Alistair Lax wrote: Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-14 Thread Alistair Lax
Thanks all for your comments. I hadn't come across the Pentax Aperture Block problem, but I've now looked and it seems there are few reports of it with the K-70, but less so than with other Pentax models. I think I'll take the risk as I like some of the features, in particular the fully articul

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread ann sanfedele
Alistair - I remember you, even if you were, um, lax :-) but Have no advice on the k-70 Welcome back anyway ann On 3/13/2021 4:26 PM, Brian W wrote: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Henk Terhell
Don't wait too long should you consider to obtain a KP , because it is being discontinued. Henk Op 2021-03-13 om 22:26 schreef Brian W: Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be wort

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2021-03-13 Thread Brian W
Welcome back. I was here 10 years ago but don't recall your name - but memory isn't a strong point at my age :-) Before deciding on a K-70 it might be worth Googling "Pentax Aperture Block" which affected several cameras including, I think, the K-70. It might be worth considering a KP or even a

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Larry Colen
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 8:56 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe. I > think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well worth it, > any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, and much > better a

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson
After your expedition to find the lost Frans Lanting had returned. > On 13 March 2021 at 12:57 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as > grass-fed artisan Weetabix? > > > > > On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson wrote: > > > >  > >> On

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Well Everyone else was just clowning around, so I'll be serious, maybe.  I think there is still a digest version, Upgrading the K20D is well worth it, any Pentax made after it will have better high ISO capability, and much better and better faster auto focus. On 3/13/2021 6:06 AM, Alistair Lax

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson
> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml wrote: > > > Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let > alone who was there. I remember my eyebrows being there. > > Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking > across the channel toward

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread mike wilson
I think there's a rule about lurking when retired. Especially when one has specialist knowledge about present situations > On 13 March 2021 at 11:06 Alistair Lax wrote: > > > I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years - not that my absence > would have been noticeable as I was mainly

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Bob Pdml
Now I remember - didn’t one of the stall holders try to sell them as grass-fed artisan Weetabix? > On 13 Mar 2021, at 12:51, mike wilson wrote: > >  >> On 13 March 2021 at 12:10 Bob Pdml wrote: >> >> >> Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let >> alone

Re: Rejoined PDML

2021-03-13 Thread Bob Pdml
Was I at the Borough Market meet? I can’t remember it even taking place, let alone who was there. Anyway, welcome back! I’ve retired to Worthing and spend my days looking across the channel towards France, like Napoleon on Saint Helena. https://www.napoleon.org/wp-content/thumbnails/uploads/201

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2021-03-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/3/21, Alistair Lax, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've just re-joined PDML after about 10 years Never heard of you mate ;-) I'm *trying* to retire but still having fun working - what can I say!! When the fun stops, that'll be it. -- Cheers Cotty -- %(real_nam