Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread Bruce Dayton
: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 14:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread David Savage
My store sends me out with bag/s with the stores name on it. :-) Cheers, Dave On 9/9/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: grin My local store that does stock some decent Pentax gear always sends me out of the store with my stuff in a bag emblazoned with Nikon on it. -- Best regards,

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread P. J. Alling
At least the places I go have bags emblazoned with the relatively neutral Kodak. Bruce Dayton wrote: grin My local store that does stock some decent Pentax gear always sends me out of the store with my stuff in a bag emblazoned with Nikon on it. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn.

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread Glen Tortorella
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 14:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread Glen Tortorella
An improvement over the NiCan hype, for sure. Glen On Sep 9, 2007, at 9:26 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: At least the places I go have bags emblazoned with the relatively neutral Kodak. Bruce Dayton wrote: grin My local store that does stock some decent Pentax gear always sends me out of the

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-09 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Dayton grin My local store that does stock some decent Pentax gear always sends me out of the store with my stuff in a bag emblazoned with Nikon on it. Probably for the best. You wouldn't want just any Tom, Dick or Harry standing around outside to know you've just bought the good

RE: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-08 Thread Y. Rowe
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 14:47 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-06 Thread David J Brooks
When i ordered my K10D, Henrys in Newmarket did not even have a sample camera. It came in about 3 weeks later, and all of the salesmen were actually exited to see it. They had a hands on look, gave it to me and one said, lucky B*(^^tard.:-) I do see them on the shelfs at the store but off to the

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C Foveon X3 in K10D? How 'bout full frame to boot? If'n you're gonna' go dreamin' ... might as well dream big. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-06 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C Do you like green or red cabbage in yours? Tom C. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget Coles Law. Yes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-06 Thread Amita Guha
On 9/5/07, Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I often wonder - and I'm not saying this is the case here - if the squeeze is put on by brand leaders and possibly as this may feature as the shops main income from their sales, by them *implying* that stocking or promoting a rival product

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Brendan MacRae
Actually, it was Pardees. I had called Camera Arts but they were out of the white backgrounds. I like Action Camera. I've given them a quite a bit of business over the last year. I bought my supports, a nice used 165mm f2.8 for the 67 and even ordered a new center column for my Bogen through

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Toralf Lund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the film days, I think Pentax and Nikon were the big draws. When Canon came out with the AE-1, they became a player. Minolta made its mark with the Maxxam AF cameras. IMO, Pentax lost out with the SF series of AF cameras. Canon EOS cameras were much better,

RE: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out there that we don't carry. At that point he handed me the charge slip to sign and I took my yellow

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Jack Davis
I could have guessed Pardees, Brendon. Just seemed to fit. Jack --- Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it was Pardees. I had called Camera Arts but they were out of the white backgrounds. I like Action Camera. I've given them a quite a bit of business over the last year. I

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Glen Tortorella
These are excellent comments, Brendan. You highlight many important issues we Pentaxians face...and things we feel. Regards, Glen On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: So, after my fruitless search for the 16-50mm f2.8 over the last coupe of days (except for the 5 available

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Brendan MacRae wrote: Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out there that we don't carry. At that point he handed me the charge slip to sign and I took my yellow copy

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Foveon X3 in K10D? Tom C. From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:35:51 -0400 These are excellent comments, Brendan

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
It could be worse, the last full service shop, within reasonable driving distance, carries Pentax. There's one salesman in particular who while perfictly willing to show you a K10d K100d etc., makes a point that he's sold x number of them but, y number were returned by unhappy customers,

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
You spend a decade or two making ho-hum cameras, and that is what your market image becomes. It is far harder to overcome a image like that than it is to start from scratch. Strangely, there is an immense amount of merchandising research results published but I have found that most people

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:35:51 -0400 These are excellent comments, Brendan. You highlight many important issues we Pentaxians face...and things we feel. Regards, Glen On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:42:17 -0400 It could be worse, the last full service shop, within reasonable driving distance, carries Pentax

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Obviously I didn't believe that. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:46:48 -0400 What, you believe everything you

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Bob Blakely
Don't forget Coles Law. Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Tom C
Do you like green or red cabbage in yours? Tom C. From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget Coles Law. Regards, Bob... - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] What, you believe everything you read? Sturgeons law needs to be updated, to 90% of everything on

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Bob Blakely
Both! Har! Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you like green or

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:35:51 -0400 These are excellent comments, Brendan. You highlight many important issues we Pentaxians face

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread graywolf
Tasty with fish? Bob Blakely wrote: Don't forget Coles Law. Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. - Original Message

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread npx
Well, I don't know anthing about it, I haven't read any of the reviews on it, and I don't make those decisions anyway the owner does. There's a lot of great gear out there that we don't carry. At that point he handed me the charge slip to sign and I took my yellow copy and left. One

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 5, 2007, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the local dealers was telling me that no Pentax field sales representative had been in to see them in several years. ... I would find that hard to believe. ... I don't. I've done business with the folks in this shop for over a

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-05 Thread P. J. Alling
Yea, yea, yea, finely sliced cabbage. Bob Blakely wrote: Don't forget Coles Law. Regards, Bob... Life isn't like a box of chocolates . . it's more like a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn your butt tomorrow. -

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-04 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Brendan, Sounds like you went down to Camera Arts. Are you aware that Action Camera in Roseville (my town) is an active Pentax dealer? Recently when I was the first on the list to procure the 16-50/2.8, it was from them. I put my name on the list - first guy I think, and they got one of

Re: Sometimes it's hard to shoot Pentax

2007-09-04 Thread japilado
In the film days, I think Pentax and Nikon were the big draws. When Canon came out with the AE-1, they became a player. Minolta made its mark with the Maxxam AF cameras. IMO, Pentax lost out with the SF series of AF cameras. Canon EOS cameras were much better, I believe. I am not as