Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread John Francis
; Speculation without comment. > > - MCC > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino Photography > Kalamazoo, MI > www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > ----- Original Message - > From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2005-02-11 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Mark Cassino" Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS Speculation without comment. shame on us, i guess. william robb

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2005-02-11 Thread Mark Cassino
ginal Message - From: "Graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS People will listen to the fameous 97% more ofthen than to they will the knowledgable. Going with the popular opinion is always more profitable. graywolf

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2005-02-11 Thread Graywolf
People will listen to the fameous 97% more ofthen than to they will the knowledgable. Going with the popular opinion is always more profitable. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Peter J. Alling wrote: Just one more reason t

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread Graywolf
"Me" (jumping up and down waving hands in air), "me", "me"... graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Doug Franklin wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:32:17 -0600, William Robb wrote: Substandard tools are incapable of producing an exc

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread Powell Hargrave
At 10:47 AM 11/02/2005 , keith whaley wrote: > >I started with a 1.3 MP Epson digital, progressed thru a 4 MP Pentax >(Optio 4S) and now have an Olympus Camedia C-5050 (5 MP.) >Quite frankly, when I uploaded the camera's images to my CPU and >displayed them on my .26 dot pitch 17" monitor, to the

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread mike wilson
David Zaninovic wrote: My opinion is that better tools are more fun to use, sure you can get results with cheaper tools but it requires more work. Example, you can use extension tubes with SMC-M 50/1.4 on D with manual flash but then you have to press the green button, you can't quickly control m

Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread David Zaninovic
ictures usually equals better pictures after you select few of them from the bunch. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS > > > > > From: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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2005-02-11 Thread mike wilson
Keith Whaley wrote: David Mann wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: He's fulla bat stuff! Anybody who says there's little to no difference between a 2 and 5 GP and a 5 and 10 GP camera is smoking something he ought not! You'd need a really big print, superb lenses and very c

Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/02/11 Fri AM 01:15:34 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS > > Ah so I need the best equipment. That's _my_ argument.. > > Kenneth Waller > &g

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2005-02-11 Thread Keith Whaley
David Mann wrote: On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: He's fulla bat stuff! Anybody who says there's little to no difference between a 2 and 5 GP and a 5 and 10 GP camera is smoking something he ought not! You'd need a really big print, superb lenses and very careful technique to

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2005-02-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
I thought it was a Nikonos -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 10, 2005 10:18 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS Kenneth Waller wrote: > BTW, please define 'substandard'. It's the minimum requirement

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-11 Thread Cotty
On 10/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >Technically refined, in the context I meant to portray. >They can still be boring as a blank sheet. Understood. Thx. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com __

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2005-02-11 Thread David Mann
On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: He's fulla bat stuff! Anybody who says there's little to no difference between a 2 and 5 GP and a 5 and 10 GP camera is smoking something he ought not! You'd need a really big print, superb lenses and very careful technique to tell the difference

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2005-02-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Kenneth Waller wrote: > BTW, please define 'substandard'. It's the minimum requirement for undersea exploration... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

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2005-02-10 Thread David S
LOL Thats gotta make it to the '05 quote list. Dave S On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:03:09 -0500 (EST), John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taking photographic advice from a web page chosen based on > popularity is like taking cooking advice from a MacDonalds.

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2005-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Kenneth Waller" Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS Ah so I need the best equipment. It amazes me that this concept is hard to grasp. William Robb

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2005-02-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ah so I need the best equipment. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 10, 2005 10:04 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS > > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM

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2005-02-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
Not even close Fnarf. IIRC, substandard was in regards to equipment. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 10, 2005 7:56 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), K

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2005-02-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
But Frank, they're not substandard...(wait for it), ... for you. frank theriault wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BTW, please define 'substandard'. Easy: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188 cheers, frank

Re: Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread m.9.wilson
> > From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2005/02/10 Thu PM 01:18:45 GMT > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS > > On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote: > > > Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:43:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00), Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BTW, please define 'substandard'. Easy: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=381188 cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson

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2005-02-10 Thread Kenneth Waller
BTW, please define 'substandard'. Kenneth Waller -Original Message- From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Feb 10, 2005 3:50 PM To: pentax list Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS On 10/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Substandard tools are incapable of pro

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2005-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS Hmmm. Define 'excellent'. Technically refined, in the context I meant to portray. They can still be boring as a blank sheet. William Robb

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2005-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS However if you are out to make the the best end product wouldn't it make sense to use the best tools for the job? If the operator part of the equation is up to the challenge, certainly. But

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/2/05, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product. Hmmm. Define 'excellent'. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

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2005-02-10 Thread John Francis
Peter J. Alling mused: > > no they find Ken Rockwell, who runs a "Popular" web page. Taking photographic advice from a web page chosen based on popularity is like taking cooking advice from a MacDonalds.

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2005-02-10 Thread Keith Whaley
Doug Franklin wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:32:17 -0600, William Robb wrote: Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product. A system is only a capable as it's least-capable component. Exactly so, that was my point. I submit most of the time the weak link is the photographer,

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Whaley
Rob Studdert wrote: On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote: Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence. A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while using sub-standard gear. We tend to forget that... We concentrate on the tools' properties, instead of the excellenc

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Peter J. Alling
Just one more reason to not watch CBS, they're completely lacking in credibility. How the hell do they do their research, do they actually talk to any real experts, say someone who knows something about information theory, or physics, or optics, no they find Ken Rockwell, who runs a "Popular" w

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:11:24 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: > >A system is only a capable as it's least-capable component. > > Which is usually the operator, in the case of photography ;-) It certainly is in my case. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

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2005-02-10 Thread Mark Roberts
"Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:32:17 -0600, William Robb wrote: > >> Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product. > >A system is only a capable as it's least-capable component. Which is usually the operator, in the case of photography ;-)

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2005-02-10 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 06:32:17 -0600, William Robb wrote: > Substandard tools are incapable of producing an excellent product. A system is only a capable as it's least-capable component. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

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2005-02-10 Thread Malcolm Smith
David S wrote: > It doesn't matter how many megapixels you have. A crap > picture is still crap. How true. But is it better to have quality equipment and know how to use it to make the best of it, whatever your location and light conditions or fire off with a P & S digital and fix it in Photosh

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2005-02-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >David S wrote: > >> It doesn't matter how many megapixels you have. A crap picture is still crap. > >Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence. >A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while >using sub-standard gear. >From the 2

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2005-02-10 Thread David S
Oh I agree completely. For those who are interested in making quality images, the tools used make quite a difference. But how many snap shooters, buy a camera solely based on the MP count?, thinking the higher the megapixels the better the final photos. That was the sentiment I was agreeing with.

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2005-02-10 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" Subject: Re: kenny-boy on CBS On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote: Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence. A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while using sub-standard gear. We tend to fo

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Feb 2005 at 4:06, Keith Whaley wrote: > Atta boy, Dave! Boil it down to it's essence. > A really capable photographer can make really good images, even while > using sub-standard gear. > We tend to forget that... > We concentrate on the tools' properties, instead of the excellence of > the

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread Keith Whaley
David S wrote: I may as well sell all my gear and use the camera in my mobile phone. My *ist D has 6079520 extra pixels I don't need. But I do agree with this line; "Camera manufacturers want you to believe the more megapixels, the better the picture." It doesn't matter how many megapixels you ha

Re: kenny-boy on CBS

2005-02-10 Thread David S
I may as well sell all my gear and use the camera in my mobile phone. My *ist D has 6079520 extra pixels I don't need. But I do agree with this line; "Camera manufacturers want you to believe the more megapixels, the better the picture." It doesn't matter how many megapixels you have. A crap pic

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2005-02-10 Thread Keith Whaley
Derby Chang wrote: Our favourite smilin' Ken seems have gotten himself on CBS. Did anyone Stateside see his interview? http://cbs2.com/consumerpaige/local_story_040194428.html I went to the above site, and read the following: "Ken Rockwell, an avid photographer who runs a popular digital photog