Re: K10D RTF, SR, noise...

2007-01-05 Thread Thibouille
the RTF flash can be used in 2nd-curtain sync. That's pretty cool. I don't remember it was possible with the D. * VERY obvious to know how to set a Flash exposure compensation. First time I see Pentax promoting this feature. Yes, it is good to have for the rtf flash. The PZ-1p also had

K10D RTF, SR, noise...

2007-01-04 Thread Thibouille
* I noticed the RTF flash can be used in 2nd-curtain sync. That's pretty cool. I don't remember it was possible with the D. * VERY obvious to know how to set a Flash exposure compensation. First time I see Pentax promoting this feature. * When reviewing pictures and choosing info

Re: K10D RTF, SR, noise...

2007-01-04 Thread Joseph Tainter
* I noticed the RTF flash can be used in 2nd-curtain sync. That's pretty cool. I don't remember it was possible with the D. * VERY obvious to know how to set a Flash exposure compensation. First time I see Pentax promoting this feature. Yes, it is good to have for the rtf flash. The PZ-1p also

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: The on-camera pop-up flash will trigger another flash without wires if the other flash is in slave mode. In mettered TTL for the slave? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Okay, that's why using the popup flash as a slave trigger works in my studio. I always shoot in manual exposure mode there. And since I haven't tried it more than once or twice, it may well have been with a K lens. Paul On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:49 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: That only works

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
No. You have to do it the old fashioned way. But that's the only way I shoot in my studio or when I use studio strobes on location. With digital it's not very difficult. You don't even have to do any math. Guess, shoot and look. Once you know your equipment, it's easy to come within a stop

No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
I just have read FAQ on japanese K10D page using babelfish and: Q: The Strobo it can photograph with the wireless? A: Wireless photographing is possible by the fact that 2 AF540FGZ or AF360FGZ are used. With the built-in Strobo wireless speed light photography is not possible. Why? It was

RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Rob Brigham
To me, this is far more serious than losing use of the aperture ring. Almost all of my indoor flash photography is done with the wireless 360 bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate surface because I can point

RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Rob Brigham wrote: I am not gonna use 2 flashes because the whole thing just gets too cumbersome then, and people will think I am even more mad than at present...! Well put. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
all of my indoor flash photography is done with the wireless 360 bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate surface because I can point it in any direction (I hand hold it), and I don't have to mess around if I

RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Rob Brigham
Hope you are right Paul. Cant believe they would do something like this - there is no justifiable reason for it, unless you were selling a camera without RTF. The use of RTF other than as a controller could arguably not belong on a higher end model like this, so if they were going to nobble

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Gonz
and is not likely to be correct. To me, this is far more serious than losing use of the aperture ring. Almost all of my indoor flash photography is done with the wireless 360 bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Gonz wrote: I also suspect that this information might be wrong. It doesn't make much sense. I wouldn't get my shorts in a knot over it quite yet. I agree. It would be a serious omission and is not likely to be correct. I am almost certain that this is true. First, this

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Jack Davis
bounced and the RTF providing a little fill to avoid shadow cast. This means I can bounce the 360 off the most appropriate surface because I can point it in any direction (I hand hold it), and I don't have to mess around if I change the orientation of the camera etc. I usually only mount

RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Rob Brigham
% of the indoor shots I take use wireless triggered by the RTF and I am not going to carry both around all the time so I can juggle which one to use based on this feature. This means the K10D could get left at home too often to justify... I am still hoping, but not so positive anymore Rob -Original

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just have read FAQ on japanese K10D page using babelfish and: Q: The Strobo it can photograph with the wireless? A: Wireless photographing is possible by the fact that 2 AF540FGZ or AF360FGZ are used. With the built-in Strobo wireless

RE: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you are right Paul. Cant believe they would do something like this - there is no justifiable reason for it, unless you were selling a camera without RTF. The use of RTF other than as a controller could arguably not belong on a higher end

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 15, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: ... Otherwise, why on earth include the flash at all? Like you say, get rid of it altogether and lose the weight and size and sell more af540-FGZ's. For occasional use. I have almost never used the built in flash other than for testing,

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/06, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: But, I agree that on a high end model, the wireless flash triggering of the pop-up is a definite must, as this is the pro feature. Stark raving mad. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
Hey, I resent that! I am not stark... ;-] -Brendan --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/9/06, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: But, I agree that on a high end model, the wireless flash triggering of the pop-up is a definite must, as this is the pro feature. Stark

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
, and have to go back to the *istD for the other half then I am just not sure that I can buy into that. It may seem like overreacting, but 90-95% of the indoor shots I take use wireless triggered by the RTF and I am not going to carry both around all the time so I can juggle which one to use based

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/9/06, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey, I resent that! I am not stark... ;-] LOL Okay, but you're mad as a March hare, boyo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ --

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Can't you set your second flash as a slave? Functionally, it's the same thing. Don't get it, what do you mean by second flash. Why would he have 2 accessory flashes? Just to trigger the other one? I am buying onto the compact, light Pentax system so

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
Could be, there is ample evidence! -Brendan --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/9/06, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey, I resent that! I am not stark... ;-] LOL Okay, but you're mad as a March hare, boyo. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
The on-camera pop-up flash will trigger another flash without wires if the other flash is in slave mode. Paul On Sep 15, 2006, at 5:12 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Fri, 15 Sep 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: Can't you set your second flash as a slave? Functionally, it's the same thing.

Re: No wireless with RTF in K10D :-(

2006-09-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
That only works if the built-in flash is not in P-TTL mode, otherwise the first flash will trigger the external flash and not the flash at time of exposure. I use slave-triggered flash all the time, but not with the built-in flash unit as I have to switch to manual exposure mode and take

Re: Zoom for ist-D and RTF

2005-06-07 Thread Jerome Reyes
Thanks, Joe and Jim, for your feedback on my inquery. In the end, I opted for the 20-35mm as both of you suggested. I'm not sure what the going rate is, but I was personally content to pay under $400. As desired, it gives me the compact walk-around lens that I needed for the ist-D, with the

Zoom for ist-D and RTF

2005-06-03 Thread Jerome Reyes
for which the ist-D actually has sufficient RTF coverage? More spefically, would the FA 18-35 fit the bill? How about the DA 18-55? The bottom line is that I want the option of using the full range of the lens WITH built-in flash. And while we're on the topic, do these two lenses absolutely stink

Re: Zoom for ist-D and RTF

2005-06-03 Thread Joseph Tainter
I believe that the DA 18-55 is fully compatible with the rtf. But hang on to that DA 16-45 for times when image quality matters. An alternative would be the FA 20-35 f4. Less zoom range, but superb image quality -- even slightly better than the DA 16-45. Joe

Zoom for ist-D and RTF

2005-06-03 Thread James King
Your best bet is probably the DA 18-55, as it is really inexpensive and gives a 35mm equivalent FL of 27mm. I have used the inexpensive Sigma 24-70 f3.5-5.6 HF zoom (ca. $130) for this situation and it works just fine. Its quality is a lot higher than the price would lead you to expect, its

Question on RTF flash usage with SF1/SF1n

2004-03-15 Thread Joe Wilensky
The SF1/SFX and SF1n/SFXn cameras, the series that introduced the RTF TTL flash to the SLR world, were nevertheless criticized (in reviews, at least) for the limited film range the flash was useable with: ASA 25-400. Does this mean that the flash won't fire at all with ASA 800 film

Re: Question on RTF flash usage with SF1/SF1n

2004-03-15 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Joe Wilensky wrote: The SF1/SFX and SF1n/SFXn cameras, the series that introduced the RTF TTL flash to the SLR world, were nevertheless criticized (in reviews, at least) for the limited film range the flash was useable with: ASA 25-400. Does this mean that the flash won't

RE: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

2004-02-25 Thread Bill Sawyer
Mark, I'll have mine with me Sunday, if you want to compare the two for settings. -Original Message- From: Mark Cassino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 25, 2004 11:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Mz-S RTF Flash Problem I suspect that something is broken here

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

2004-02-25 Thread Mark Cassino
At 01:46 PM 2/25/2004 -0500, Robert Leigh Woerner wrote: Does the flash work in servo mode? I'm not sure what servo mode is - the AF? I tried it with AF disabled, to no avail... - MCC - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, MI http://www.markcassino.com -

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

2004-02-25 Thread John Coyle
Subject: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem I suspect that something is broken here, but I'm wondering if I just have a setting goofed up... The built in flash on my Mz-S just plain does not work. I pop it up, nothing happens - when in program mode the shutter and aperture speeds don't change and it does

Re: Mz-S RTF Flash Problem

2004-02-25 Thread Mark Cassino
At 11:26 AM 2/26/2004 +1000, John Coyle wrote: Mark, have you checked p131 of the manual? There are a couple of situations mentioned there, including, of course, low batteries! Thanks - tried new batteries, ran down the checklist in the manual. Still no flash. On the bright side - I did learn

Re: RTF flash (was:ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye) )

2001-04-10 Thread David A. Mann
Jim Brooks writes: Isn't it odd then that the MZS has one? I've found the RTF in the Z-1p useful when I left the big Sunpak at home. I guess it would be very useful for contrast control, catchlights or whatever. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http

RTF

2001-04-09 Thread petit miam
A silly question: What's RTF? I guess the F is for flash. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http

Re: RTF

2001-04-09 Thread William Robb
I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little prism mounted ones. William Robb - Original Message - From: "petit miam" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 9, 2001 12:15 AM Subject: RTF A silly question: What's RTF? I gues

RE: RTF

2001-04-09 Thread Bucky
Retractable Ttl Flash? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: April 8, 2001 11:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RTF I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little prism mounted ones. Wi

Re: RTF

2001-04-09 Thread Jeff Tokayer
I'd say it means Retractable TTL Flash Jeff - Original Message - From: "William Robb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:18 AM Subject: Re: RTF I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little prism mounted

RE: RTF flash (was:ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye))

2001-04-09 Thread Rob Brigham
You can use it to trigger the wireless slave function of the new external flash. I was thinking that I would happily lose it too, until I thought 'ooh, I could bounce the main flash off the ceiling, and use the RTF for a bit of fill in, without any messing about getting technical!' This may

Vs: RTF flash (was:ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye))

2001-04-09 Thread Raimo Korhonen
]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piv: 09. huhtikuuta 2001 11:03 Aihe: Re: RTF flash (was:ME viewfinder (was Re: Zenitar 16/2.8 Fisheye)) Isn't it odd then that the MZS has one? James Brooks - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow

RTF

2001-03-31 Thread Anthony Farr
a bit now that I have learnt how to shoot available light though!). Tanya. Was RTF invented by a battery manufacturer? IMO the only merit of RTF is that it's there. It astounds me that anyone would seriously use one as their flash unit of choice. They are too close to the lens

Re: RTF

2001-03-31 Thread Alin Flaider
Anthony wrote: AF Was RTF invented by a battery manufacturer? Actually, it was a Pentax first! (Gotta love this...:oD) AF ... AF IMnsHO, RTF is about as useful as tits on a bull. I'm not an integrated flash fan myself, but I did find some uses for it. Sometimes (please read not always

Re: RTF

2001-03-31 Thread Doug Brewer
One thing I've liked about the RTF on my PZ-1p is that I've been able to use it on family snaps without breaking out the AF500FTZ. Makes for a smaller package, and turns the PZ-1p into a better all-around camera. While it's true I wouldn't use it for professional applications, not every shot

Re: RTF

2001-03-31 Thread Bill Owens
This photo was a grab shot last Sunday using the RTF to fill the background. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=193712 Bill, KG4LOV [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget

Subject: RTF

2001-03-31 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer
Anthony Farr wrote: "Was RTF invented by a battery manufacturer? IMO the only merit of RTF is that it's there. It astounds me that anyone would seriously use one as their flash unit of choice. They are too close to the lens and cannot be used off-camera or bounced. Even if they

Re: Subject: RTF

2001-03-31 Thread aimcompute
Interesting concept... Matching camera beachwear. What about a fleshtone camera so when holding it in your hands people couldn't tell from a distance? g Tanya wrote: snip frankly, I don't give a hoot what my gear looks like. It could be pink and green with yellow polkadots and as long as