Re: Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-30 Thread akozak
Thank you Any comparison with other 200mm macro lenses? Alek Użytkownik Pĺl Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >Alek wrote: > >> Do you know who uses FA200/4 ED macro?Or you know any tests of the lens or other >macro lenses? > > >It is great. As good as they come. > >Pĺl > ***r-e-k-

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Sylwester Pietrzyk a écrit: on 27.01.03 17:39, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose I should also point out that Nikon fires a pre flash prior to the actual flash exposure so it can meter the reflected light of the flash from the subject. The metering is also tied to the acti

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Alan Chan a écrit: I once stripped down a F50/1.4 (many years ago) which had 4 electrical straps (or 3?) underneath the focus ring. Looks like for distance data. regards, Alan Chan But you compare F100 with MZ5 which uses distant information but has not advanced flash metering. You should comp

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
No kidding. You don't even know how the camera works, or what it can do. There's a dedicated switch on the back to turn the dummy, auto AF select, to user selects the AF sensor. If you don't like the AF assist light, turn it off: Custom Function 18 (I assume you don't have the owner's manual.If

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
It is distance information. This has always been known. What bodies get it and use it is a matter of debate and mythology. BR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once stripped down a F50/1.4 (many years ago) which had 4 electrical straps (or 3?) underneath the focus ring. Looks like for distance data.

RE: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Len Paris
I'll have to watch out for that. I didn't know about it at all. Thanks. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Bruce Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread KT Takeshita
On 1/28/03 5:02 PM, "Bruce Rubenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No kidding. You don't even know how the camera works, or what it can do. > There's a dedicated switch on the back to turn the dummy, auto AF > select, to user selects the AF sensor. If you don't like the AF assist > light, turn it

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread KT Takeshita
On 1/28/03 5:02 PM, "Bruce Rubenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No kidding. You don't even know how the camera works, or what it can do. > There's a dedicated switch on the back to turn the dummy, auto AF > select, to user selects the AF sensor. If you don't like the AF assist > light, turn it

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Alan Chan
I once stripped down a F50/1.4 (many years ago) which had 4 electrical straps (or 3?) underneath the focus ring. Looks like for distance data. regards, Alan Chan But you compare F100 with MZ5 which uses distant information but has not advanced flash metering. You should compare F100 with MZS. A

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Alek wrote: > Do you know who uses FA200/4 ED macro?Or you know any tests of the lens or other >macro lenses? It is great. As good as they come. Pål

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread akozak
You are right, Bruce And it is more important to take more pictures and think during shooting than only reading test and specs. Cheers, Alek PS How about you Nikkors?Do you prefer them over Pentax or vice versa?Alek Użytkownik Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >If someone would like

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
If someone would like to lend me a MZ-S for 6 months I would be glad to compare it to a F100. My comments pertained to specific model cameras, because that it what I have experience with. Now, I happen to have D and non D lenses. Monitor preflash and multisegment TTL metering is still done with

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I'm sorry, but you are going to have to get a weasel answer: it all depends. In only one case (28-105) the Nikon is better optically, and vastly better mechanically than the Pentax I had (FA 28-105/4-5.6 power zoom). Otherwise, I haven't noticed the Nikkors being "sharper", when I can compare co

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread akozak
Hi, Thank you very much for the answer. My brother plans to buy Nikon 80 and you recommend it?What about build quality/AF, fast?metering? So you believe that Nikkors are sharper? And you are right. Some people like Pentax glass very,very much. The problem is as you said with bodies. there is not F

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread KT Takeshita
On 1/28/03 9:38 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you have Nikon system, too how you assess Pentax lenses (in general) in > comparison with Nikon. > Probbaly one cannot say in general. Just your impressions. > Some people believe Nikkors are better some not... Hi Alek, I ha

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread akozak
If you have Nikon system, too how you assess Pentax lenses (in general) in comparison with Nikon. Probbaly one cannot say in general. Just your impressions. Some people believe Nikkors are better some not... Alek Użytkownik Bruce Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >I suppose I should also poi

Re: Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-28 Thread akozak
Hi, But you compare F100 with MZ5 which uses distant information but has not advanced flash metering. You should compare F100 with MZS. And it must be truth with distant information since when Pentax introduced P-TTL they have not changed anything in lenses!!It proves that it should be similar t

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Arnold Stark
On the topic of super wide angle lenses Alan Chan wrote: Could this be a problem with Pentax, instead of all SLR wide angles? Generally all super wide angle lenses have considerable fall-off of resolution and of contrast from image centre to border (and yes, Raimo, they do have light fall

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I got things a bit jumbled. The AF sensor data is used to determine the distance of the subject. According to Nikon documentation, "The camera's CPU uses the reflected light [monitor preflash] to determine in which of the TTL Multi Sensor's five segments the subject is located, in accordance wi

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
>on 27.01.03 17:39, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I suppose I should also point out that Nikon fires a pre flash prior to >> the actual flash exposure so it can meter the reflected light of the >> flash from the subject. The metering is also tied to the active AF >> sensor. I

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Heiko wrote: > Is it the same matrix metering system as on the MZ-5n? No. I believe it's significantly altered or at least differently calibrated. It is closer to whats used in the 645N/NII. It is far more intelligent than what used on earlier Pentaxes (like the Z-1p), which basically just co

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 27.01.03 17:39, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I suppose I should also point out that Nikon fires a pre flash prior to > the actual flash exposure so it can meter the reflected light of the > flash from the subject. The metering is also tied to the active AF > sensor. In my exp

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 27.01.03 17:39, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I suppose I should also point out that Nikon fires a pre flash prior to > the actual flash exposure so it can meter the reflected light of the > flash from the subject. The metering is also tied to the active AF > sensor. In my exp

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 27.01.03 15:12, Bruce Rubenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The 3D primarily has to do with the distance from the camera to the > subject for flash metering. While distance information has been > available from Pentax lenses, it wasn't used for exposure calculation > until some of the newer

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
The 3D primarily has to do with the distance from the camera to the subject for flash metering. While distance information has been available from Pentax lenses, it wasn't used for exposure calculation until some of the newer cameras came out. I don't think that there is any difference in the p

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:03:12 +0200, Boris Liberman wrote: > Given the number of variables involved, it literally means zilch - > something like: There is a company called Pentax that happens to > produce some zooms, one of which apparently in my hands used in such > an such manner gives such and s

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Heiko Hamann
Hi Pål, on 27 Jan 03 you wrote in pentax.list: >Sylwester wrote: >> - in FotoMagazin test MZ-S has quite poor matrix metering, in ColorFoto it >> just got better - better than F100 or EOS-30 (which were far better in >> former magazine tests...) >The MZ-S has one of the best matrix metering sys

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Pål Jensen
Sylwester wrote: > - in FotoMagazin test MZ-S has quite poor matrix metering, in ColorFoto it > just got better - better than F100 or EOS-30 (which were far better in > former magazine tests...) The MZ-S has one of the best matrix metering systems in business; perhaps only surpassed by the F5.

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! SP> Reading tests more and more in more places, I found them to be just SP> unreliable. For instance: SP> - according to Folorfoto MZ-S has one of the slowest AF among current SLR SP> bodies (just slightly faster than Dynax 404 and 505, and much slower than SP> MZ-3 and N*** F65...), the same

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-27 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 24.01.03 17:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > I wonder how these tests are useful for us from the magazine. Nearly all 24mm > lenses got less than 70 points out of 100. It seems that tele lenses get much > higher notes than wide ones. > Strange. SO maybe you are they are

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-26 Thread Alan Chan
most modern telephotos really are better than most extreme wide angle lenses. Below 28mm focal lenght almost all lenses for 35mm SLR cameras suffer from severe fall-off of resolution and contrast from the image centre to the image border. If you look at the MTF diagrams given e.g. in ColorFoto,

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-26 Thread Arnold Stark
Hello Alek, most modern telephotos really are better than most extreme wide angle lenses. Below 28mm focal lenght almost all lenses for 35mm SLR cameras suffer from severe fall-off of resolution and contrast from the image centre to the image border. If you look at the MTF diagrams given e.g.

Re: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in German magazine

2003-01-24 Thread akozak
Hi, I wonder how these tests are useful for us from the magazine. Nearly all 24mm lenses got less than 70 points out of 100. It seems that tele lenses get much higher notes than wide ones. Strange. SO maybe you are they are tested nearly full open. What do you think? And in this magazine Fa100/2.