Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Plucking some message out of my backlog... William in Utah wrote: I almost never use program or shutter priority myself, but I love aperture priority and generally fine tune exposure with a twist of the exposure compensation dial. That's mostly what I do on the Super Program as well. Once

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So do I, but to my eyes, the Super Program doesn't do a good job alerting me that I've turned the dial. I frequently tune out the exposure compensation flasher by mistake and end up shooting several frames at + or -2. I prefer an arrangement where the warning flasher is in the same row or

Re: Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-23 Thread David Brooks
bought it as a back up to the K1000's but really like the TTL flash.I think you will too. BTW i used the AF280T. Dave Begin Original Message From: Ken Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:57:23 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Super Program buyer This is just

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-23 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Ken Archer wrote: Compared to my ME Supers and Spotmatics, the Super Program is a real klunker, at least that is what it sounds like. You lose stealth mode after the first shot. :^) ... that's why you might as well use it w/ the Winder! it will cover up that

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-23 Thread Ken Archer
Duh, I shoulda thought of that. ;-) On Tuesday 23 April 2002 01:46 pm, Bill D. Casselberry wrote: Ken Archer wrote: Compared to my ME Supers and Spotmatics, the Super Program is a real klunker, at least that is what it sounds like. You lose stealth mode after the first shot. :^)

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-23 Thread Mishka
reminds me of a review of a (quite expensive sports) car i read a few years ago. there was a line about the stereo being lousy, but then, it continued, that shouldn't have mattered because of the deafening engine roar... g :^) ... that's why you might as well use it w/ the Winder!

Re: Re: Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-22 Thread David Brooks
Thanks Ken.I'll keep the MEII winder in mind. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-20 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky
William, I was wrong. I was thinking of my Yashica Electro rangefinders. On the original full-size models (45/1.7 lens), click stops were every 1/3 stop. On the later, slightly smaller GL, this was changed to half-stops. William Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curious. I have both the older

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-20 Thread Paul F. Stregevsky
One of mine has developed this problem. I think it began when I stuffed the camera into my lunch bag. Some foodstuffs may be clogging it up. One thing I forgot to mention about the Super Program, is that the film speed is a pain in the neck to change. It takes two hands, and even then,

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of the chief reasons I chose the Super Program was that it displays the shutter speed in an LCD on the top panel. Great for stealth shots when you don't want to lift the camera to your eye. Not until the MZ-7 (ZX-7) did Pentax offer this amenity on its MZ autofocus bodies. Ricoh offered it

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread Shel Belinkoff
This begs the question of shooting style. I'd think that a photographer would know what the shutter speed and aperture are set at without having to look. Of course, with the old fashioned shutter speed dial, the readout is there to be easily seen at all times, except in darkness, a situation in

RE: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread TM
Well, call me a dissenter, but I hate the little buttons for shutter speed- I find them to feel really cheap and flimsy. I prefer having a dial for shutter speed, although a thumbwheel like I've seen on some Nikons would be really nice, IMHO. I haven't handled the latest gen cameras- ZX-5n or

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread Bolo
Shel wrote: One problem with some of the electronic designs is that you can't feel the shutter speed settings change. A quick example that comes to mind is the ME Super, which has push buttons to change the speeds. I imagine that numerous other modern cameras have a similar feature where

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread William Johnson
Hmmm I just tried this with both bodies (slightly different editions, btw) and maybe my fingers are just too stubby. With some work, I can get one to do it, but the other ...argghh! :-) Even when I get the button pushed down sufficiently, the ring seems hard to turn. Maybe it's just my

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread Fred
One thing I forgot to mention about the Super Program, is that the film speed is a pain in the neck to change. It takes two hands, and even then, isn't particularly easy or quick. I personally have not found this to be a problem, William. I only need one hand, [clever, nimble-fingered

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread William Johnson
Curious. I have both the older Super Program with the 400..800..1600 ASA/ISO dial and the newer one with the 400...1000.1600 dial. Both have click stops for film in 1/3 stops. There are other subtle differences between them as well. Is there a third version of the Super Program out there?

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread Fred
On the original Super Program, the ISO dial had click stops every 1/2 stop. This arrangement was changed to every 1/3 stop when ISO 1000 films were introduced. Gee, I never noticed that, Paul. All of my own Super Program/A, Program Plus/A, and M-series bodies seem to have 1/3-stop click

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread William Johnson
Hi Fred, Yes, I've been working on it, and either practice or exercise (or most likely both) I've gotten to where it's not the daunting chore that it once was. One thing that helps me is to face the camera towards me, and cradle it with my left hand, and do like you said with my right hand.

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-19 Thread Fred
Yes, I've been working on it, and either practice or exercise (or most likely both) I've gotten to where it's not the daunting chore that it once was. One thing that helps me is to face the camera towards me, and cradle it with my left hand, and do like you said with my right hand. *Much*

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What are the virtues of a Super Program? I'm not familiar with the camera except by name. Ken Archer wrote: ...but n, you had to start talking about Super Programs and all their virtues -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Super Program buyer What are the virtues of a Super Program? I'm not familiar with the camera except by name. -It's pretty small, only a bit taller than an ME Super. I believe it will use the same winder as the ME Super. -It has

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Larson
and a motor drive! ;) Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Super Program buyer Ken, You won't regret it. The Super Program is a great camera! Now you need

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Is program mode when the lens is set on A? Is a bouncy mirror/shutter considered a virtue g? So it's essentially an ME S with some more auto functions and a less desirable mirror/shutter system. William Robb wrote: What are the virtues of a Super Program? -It's pretty small, only a bit

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Ken Archer
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Super Program buyer Ken, You won't regret it. The Super Program is a great camera! Now you need an AF200T or AF280T flash. Regards, Bob S. -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread William Johnson
Hi Shel, I've got a couple of them. The biggest plus for me over my ME Super is DOF preview. Other niceties are a viewfinder display that works great in decent or bright light. It is a backlit LCD at the bottom of the finder image. I think that it's awful in low light. Sure, there is an

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Bill ... I remember using one of these a couple of years ago. Mark Dalal had one, and I fiddled with it a bit. I liked that little grip thing, and iirc, there was something on the back that made for better gripping as well. The camera didn't feel as solid as the ME S., as you noted.

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Larson
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Is program mode when the lens is set on A? Yes, when in AUTO mode, Auto everything (except focus), take it off the A (on the lens) setting and you have Aperture priority. Put the camera on M (manual) the lens on A, you have Shutter Priority, take it off the A (on the

Re: Super Program buyer

2002-04-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Does that mean the camera decides both the aperture and the shutter speed? Is AUTO the same as Program Mode? Steve Larson wrote: Yes, when in AUTO mode, Auto everything (except focus), take it off the A (on the lens) setting and you have Aperture priority. Put the camera on M (manual) the