Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Too bad, a properly raised Pit Bull or American Staffordshire Terrier is a very amicable beast. In fact my Cocker Spaniel Puppy regularly terrorizes one that belongs to a neighbor. They have a bad reputation in cities in the US because of bad owners training them to fight. Fred Widall wrote:

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Erwitt) - Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial goverment is about to introduce a total ban on them. Eventually, they will have to ban all dogs

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-07 Thread Peter J. Alling
Which answers the question, who would keep a Hyena as a pet, if anyone had bothered to ask it. Caveman wrote: Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Bob W wrote: Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: 1) Don't approach a dog you don't know unless it's handler is present and both seem amenable to being approached. 2) Don't ever run from a dog. 3) If a dog is tied out on a chain, there is a good enough chance that it will be dangerous to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Anders Hultman
Bob W: 5) Don't disturb a dog at it's mealtime. 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. There sure are some scary dogs roaming the streets of Bucarest. And we didn't exactly got less scared of our guide's reassuring words that only quite few of them has rabies... anders -

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, 5) Don't disturb a dog at it's mealtime. 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. There sure are some scary dogs roaming the streets of Bucarest. And we didn't exactly got less scared of our guide's reassuring words that only quite few of them has rabies... Indeed. Even scarier for me was

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. Sharpened at one end as well? Don't forget the crucifix. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread mike wilson
Hi, John Francis wrote: Oddly enough, there are parts of the world that seem to manage to have an effective, efficient animal control system (rounding up strays, a shelter where abandoned animals may be turned in, etc.), enforcement of laws against animals defecating, all paid for by annual

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at the centre of a triangle of 3 dogs, all snarling and baring their gums

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Caveman
Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Bob W wrote: Indeed. Even scarier for me was one day walking through a village in Maramures County to find myself being stalked at the centre of a triangle of 3 dogs, all snarling and baring their gums in a very alarming way. I was not carrying

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, Saturday, November 6, 2004, 4:45:39 PM, Caveman wrote: Bah. Try this: http://rotfl.pl/img.php?nigerians2.jpg Been there, done that. Great photo though. Well, almost. A couple of my friends were stalked by hyenas in Addis Ababa one night, and had to take refuge in the house of a complete

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread Bob W
Hi, A friend of mine lived in Resolute Bay for a couple of years. One day he was out on the ice hunting Tarmagon when he had the distinct feeling that he was being watched. He looked over his shoulder to see a Polar Bear stalking him. Wasn't carrying toothpaste was he? I heard polar bears

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-06 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Hi, A friend of mine lived in Resolute Bay for a couple of years. One day he was out on the ice hunting Tarmagon when he had the distinct feeling that he was being watched. He looked over his

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: frank theriault They (the dogs, that is) were docile as little kitty cats. This has been my experience with the breed as well. Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted)league

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 22:15 2004.11.04 -0500, you wrote: Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 20:56:47 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 02:42:45 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted) league Golden Labrador. Alsatian, Dobermann, Pit bull, Rottweiler - none of them in the top ten. Just curious if that ranking is in total number

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 02:03:39 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common in most countries. On Nov 5, 2004, at 9:03 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 9:27:01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number one in the UK biters (number of bite incidents, severity not counted) league Golden Labrador. Alsatian

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population, then it's exactly what one would expect, since Golden Labs are very common in most countries. Just to be pendantic

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet. But they are not, by nature, agressive towards

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 10:01 AM: Just to be pendantic, there is no recognized breed Golden Lab. Golden Retriever. Yellow Lab. William Robb Once again, Bill you beat me to the punch! -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
William Robb wrote on 11/5/2004, 10:10 AM: Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet. But they are not, by nature, agressive towards people. No, they were bred to be aggressive towards other dogs.

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Owens
If people would take a half day and learn about what makes dogs tick, there would be fewer problems. William Robb AMEN ! Bill

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Owens
Many people have the same opinion of Rotties, Dobermans and German Shepherds. All of these dogs I've ever met, have basically been big babies. Bill

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pit bulls were bred from bull terriers as fighting dogs (hence pit) and are, as a breed, not one I would contemplate as a pet

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread m.9.wilson
From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/11/05 Fri PM 03:28:49 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I'm dogless now, losing both my German Shorthaired Pointer and White German Shepherd to disease, but it still pisses me off when I

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to identify the dog and its owner, who could then be

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Christian
Bob W wrote on 11/5/2004, 11:45 AM: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Caveman
I suggest living room, and using a Cat bulldozer to push it there. Christian wrote: Ever since then if I find dog crap in my yard I put it on the owner's doorstep. Maybe next time I'll put it in their mailbox.

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Sid Barras
Greetings All, To add my 2 cents to the discussion: And to further illustrate how far pittbull hysteria can go-- My oldest daughter has 3 pitt bulls. All of them are big (very big, in fact) cuddly lapdogs. She somehow got involved in the pitt bull rescue organization here in Lake Charles. I

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to identify the dog and its owner, who could

RE: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Sid Barras describes how to become a multi-millionaire by breeding pitt bulls: Here's the rub: when my in-laws found out we had gotten a dog, they were happy-- until Grandma found out it was a pitt bull. Immediately, she told us we had to get rid of the dog. Or else she would never come

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread John Francis
mike wilson mused: Bob W wrote: Hi, Sorry to hear that. Agreed about training. Worst thing to happen here was revoking the law requiring dog licences. too bloody right. They should have put the price up enough to pay for the dogshit to be cleaned up and DNA-tested to

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, And to further illustrate how far pittbull hysteria can go-- [...] when she was a little girl, she saw a playmate mauled by a pitt bull. [...] An illustration over how far people can take hysteria over a breed of dog. I never had anything for or against these dogs, but now I am

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Andre Langevin
Yes, nicely Erwittish... Not sure this dog will always enjoy being a pitbull... Andre

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Treena
is that these people get pretty indignant when they're told Killer will have to be put down because he mauled a 4-year-old to death. - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I wonder exactly who is being hysterical - the person with the horrific past experience, or the person who puts an animal before their family. So if a person has a car accident and absolutely

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bill Owens Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Many people have the same opinion of Rotties, Dobermans and German Shepherds. All of these dogs I've ever met, have basically been big babies. In my obedience classes, I have been

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:42:45 -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, if it's not per capita of the dog population [...] Per canita? :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:56:19 -0500, Bill Owens wrote: If people would take a half day and learn about what makes dogs tick, there would be fewer problems. AMEN ! Hell, it's even easier than that. They typically just need to exercise what used to be called common sense. Typically meaning

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:56:33 -0500, Christian wrote: Another neighbor's little dogs crap in my front yard all the time. Recently I stepped in it and was livid. Ever since then if I find dog crap in my yard I put it on the owner's doorstep. One of my favorite stories about my dad: When I

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Hell, it's even easier than that. They typically just need to exercise what used to be called common

Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:18 AM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, 1) Don't approach a dog you don't know unless it's handler is present and both seem amenable to being approached. 2) Don't ever run from a dog. 3) If a dog is tied out on a chain, there is a good enough chance that it will be dangerous to not approach it, even if it's people are close

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Bob W
Hi, I wonder exactly who is being hysterical - the person with the horrific past experience, or the person who puts an animal before their family. So if a person has a car accident and absolutely refuses to allow anyone in their family to ever get into a car again would be, in your mind,

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
The true corollary would be if a person has a car accident then refuses to allow any of his relatives who drive cars to visit him. Paul On Nov 5, 2004, at 6:55 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I wonder

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
and can easily knock a full grown man to the ground. On Nov 5, 2004, at 7:18 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:10 PM Subject: Re: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Hell

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Treena
on a leash - she loves everyone then. - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I would also add: Don't let a dog get between you and its owner when

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Paul Stenquist
, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) I would also add: Don't let a dog get between you and its owner when entering a home. I have to be very careful when we have guests at the house not to let my Springer Spaniel get between me and the front door when i let

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread Caveman
Never works. Land mines do. Doug Franklin wrote: My dad talked to her politely

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) 6) In Romania, carry a big stick. Sharpened at one end as well? William Robb

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) If someone walks through the door without knocking my dog will attack them. My wife had a Springer that launched himself at a meter readers face. The guy came in without knocking

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-05 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:39:09 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sharpened at one end as well? Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh?

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread William Robb
Well, I think he's a cute little fella. Is there a muzzle law for them where you are? William Robb

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread Fred Widall
Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial goverment is about to introduce a total ban on them. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/10/26/686117-cp.html Nice shot, Frank, could become a collector's item real soon G

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 19:41:49 -0500 (EST), Fred Widall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial goverment is about to introduce a total ban on them. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/10/26/686117-cp.html Nice shot, Frank,

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:25:23 -0600, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think he's a cute little fella. Is there a muzzle law for them where you are? No, not AFAIK. I think some owners want to appear responsible, since there's so much hysteria these days about a couple of attacks.

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) They (the dogs, that is) were docile as little kitty cats. This has been my experience with the breed as well. William Robb

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Pitbulls are about to become an endangered species in Ontario. Our provincial goverment is about to introduce a total ban on them. Eventually, they will have to ban all dogs. The mentality

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Headline: Vicious Chihuahua Destroys Toronto - Hundreds Dead, Thousands Homeless Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/4/2004 7:00:31 PM Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) - Original Message - From

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt) Headline: Vicious Chihuahua Destroys Toronto - Hundreds Dead, Thousands Homeless Don't laugh too hard. I saw a short documentary about a fellow (I think in Texas) that guard trains

Re: White Pitbull (an hommage to Elliott Erwitt)

2004-11-04 Thread Kenneth Waller
Frank, I would probably have cropped this a bit tighter as I don't feel the rest of what is shown in the image really adds. If a dog can look sad that one surely does. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,