Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My DVD drive is only a 4X drive and upgrading to something faster and newer seems in order, especially now that the hard drives are almost full. What's ~your~ suggestion for a high quality internal drive? What, if any, software issues must be taken into account? I'd like to continue with the curr

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Thibouille
NEC DVD burners or the best if all you'll do is burning. The read OK. LiteOn burners do burn well but read VERY well. Sony's are Liteons with Sony on it and 2x price. TDKs/memorex ... are all rebadged Liteons. Others I do not know well enough. 2006/1/14, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread John Whittingham
cian "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic" -- Original Message --- From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:03:37 -0800 Subject: Suggestions for DVD Drive > My DVD drive is only a 4X dr

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Suggestions for DVD Drive My DVD drive is only a 4X drive and upgrading to something faster and newer seems in order, especially now that the hard drives are almost full. What's ~your~ suggestion for a high q

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread John Whittingham
can't be optimistic with a misty optic" -- Original Message --- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:46:51 -0600 Subject: Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive > - Original Message ----- > From: "Shel Belinkoff&q

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Mark Roberts
On an only-slightly-tangentially-related-to-a-slightly-off-topic-discussion note: Has everyone heard that hard drive manufacturer Seagate is buying Maxtor? -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Earlier this year, I purchased a Plextor PX-716UF --- and external drive --- which, to date, I am very impressed with. I move it from computer to computer as required with out any problem. I accepted various media without any problems. I like it better than any of the internal DVD drives th

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Should have read --- Early in 2005. apologies Otis Wright, Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote: Earlier this year, I purchased a Plextor PX-716UF --- and external drive --- which, to date, I am very impressed with. I move it from computer to computer as required with out

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread P. J. Alling
That's too bad. Mark Roberts wrote: On an only-slightly-tangentially-related-to-a-slightly-off-topic-discussion note: Has everyone heard that hard drive manufacturer Seagate is buying Maxtor? -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Joseph Tainter
Shel, these are now a commodity item. I had been thinking about replacing my CD writer with a DVD writer, but didn't know prices. Then my son came up with one from Aopen (Taiwanese) priced at $50. So I got one too. It is so wonderful to have DVD if one has many gigabytes of photo files. Joe

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
I am not so sure if this is good or bad. Some say that this would reduce the number of choices and will hurt the competition. But it might also help these companies to survive. Overall, I have an impression that the HDD manufacturing industry is in a very tight corner. On one hand, the market dem

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Mishka
Absolutely correct. $60 these days buys a 8x DVD+/*/%/-R burner. I've got one (Sony) from BestBuy a couple of weeks ago when my old one (for which I paid something like $300) croaked. $50-60 sounds about right and I don't think the brand is important at all. best, Mishka On 1/14/06, Joseph Tainte

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I looked back at the build specs for my computer, and the DVD burner is a Sony DWU18A, which is a Liteon 812 I believe (been doing a little checking around the web). I've been very happy with its performance, however, I don't understand something. The spec says it's an 8x4x12x DVD. What do those

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Igor Roshchin
The possible (partially just percieved) difference is in a) ease of installation (some no-name drives can require some extra steps), and b) dependability of the recorded disks. I don't have data, but I am ready to bet that the amount of jitter (for those who doesn't know what it is, - essentially

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I've only one computer that can use an external DVD drive, and it's the same computer for which I'm looking to upgrade the internal drive. What about the Plextor makes it better than your internal drive? Shel > [Original Message] > From: Otis C. Wright, Jr. > Earlier this year, I purchased a

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Yes, plus you can watch DVD movies. My computer screen is about the size of my TV screen, and I've watched a few movies on it. Last night my DVD player was having trouble reading a disk, so I brought the disk up to my office and watched the movie on the computer. Kind of cool ;-)) Shel > [Or

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I'd disagree with you about the brand. There's a lot of crap out there - I'd rather spend a few $$ more and be sure to get as good and stable a product as possible. For the small difference in $$ there can be a big difference in security and reliability. And remember the adage, "The thrifty man

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14 Jan 2006 at 23:01, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I've only one computer that can use an external DVD drive, and it's the > same computer for which I'm looking to upgrade the internal drive. What > about the Plextor makes it better than your internal drive? The Plextor PX-716 drive can be had in f

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread Mishka
Like I said, $60 was Sony; it doesn't get any brandier than that. They all are made in China (or Malaysia), probably on the same factories. By the way, my old one (also Sony) was made in Japan and it croaked after 3 years of use. best, Mishka On 1/15/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-14 Thread David Mann
On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The spec says it's an 8x4x12x DVD. What do those numbers mean? My guess: Reads at 12x speed Writes at 8x speed Re-writes (using RW media) at 4x From what I've seen the speeds are normally shown in decreasing order: eg 12x/8x/4x. BTW the

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Paul Stenquist
If you're willing to go with an external, the LaCie external drive that sells for around $250 will do double layer DVD burns as well as single, so you can store over 8 gig on a single disc. I haven't been using the double layer discs because they're more than twice as expensive, but I hope the

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Igor Roshchin" Subject: Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive I've had my share of problems with HDDs from both companies, but somehow I don't like Maxtor HDDs, and have a good opinion about Seagate. Maybe because I know well some people

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
David Mann wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The spec says it's an 8x4x12x DVD. What do those numbers mean? My guess: Reads at 12x speed Writes at 8x speed Re-writes (using RW media) at 4x From what I've seen the speeds are normally shown in decreasing order: eg

RE: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:16 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive If you're willing to go with an external, the LaCie external drive that sells for around $250 will do double layer DVD

RE: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
: Suggestions for DVD Drive David Mann wrote: > On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >> The spec says it's an 8x4x12x DVD. What do those numbers mean? > > > My guess: > Reads at 12x speed > Writes at 8x speed > Re-writes (using RW media) at 4x >

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Mishka
yes. best, mishka On 1/15/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my experience, dual layer disc average read speeds > read at a different data rate than single layer > discs. Do DL write speeds differ too? > jco

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
--Original Message- From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:12 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive David Mann wrote: On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The spec says it's an 8x4x12x DVD.

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I've been using Pioneer for years at home and at work and never had a problem. They're also reasonably priced over here in the UK, a lot less expensive than Plextor for example. Current drive at home Pioneer DV-R 110 16x excellent price/performance. I've been using Plextor... My first an

RE: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:45 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive Hi! > I've been using Pioneer for years at home and at work and never had a > problem. They're also reas

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Otis C. Wright, Jr.
Writes all the various formats plus dual layer. Internal drives do not . Speed is better, but, for me, speed is not a big issue. The various formats are. I work with a wide range of devices using different formats and formats vary amongst my clients. Good luck, Otis Wright Shel Belin

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
Any 16x drive currently on the market should write Dual-Layer, It's the 8x's that may or may not. I've got a Lite-On internal 16x that writes Dual-Layer and a LaCie 8x external that does as well (The LaCie is an NEC mechanism) -Adam Otis C. Wright, Jr. wrote: Writes all the various formats

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Reading the specs of the Plextor drives at the posted link, I noticed that the error rate is not that low: Error Rate Mode 1: 1 block/10^12 bits Mode 2: 1 block/10^9 bits DVD-ROM: 1 block/10^12 bits I am not completely sure what they mean by '1 block' in this case, I assume it is an error in

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-16 Thread John Whittingham
red I discovered it was actually OEM Phillips!!! John John Whittingham Technician "you can't be optimistic with a misty optic" -- Original Message --- From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Sun, 15 Jan

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive

2006-01-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and advice. Shel

Re: Suggestions for DVD Drive - reference to tests (YMMV)

2006-01-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Speaking of difference between various DVD writers, you can see the results of the write speed tests conducted with the recent 16x DVD writers. "YMMV" indeed. http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/30/the_latest_dvd_writers_true_speeds/ I like the conclusion (not that I didn't know it before, but