Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread jcoyle
] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section I think the most universal and mathematical number is '0'. Why that is, I don't know, but why should a number that supposedly has quantitative value represent 'nothing'. You can't put a value on something

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Bob Rapp
Obviously, you have never had to deal with imaginary numbers. Bob - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the most universal and mathematical number is '0'. Why that is, I don't know, but why should a number that supposedly has quantitative value represent

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Franklin - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:47 AM Subject: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section It is the other way round. Tell me one instance when a number has been observed in the nature. Lots

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Nonsense - yes, but on whose side? You are constantly saying that numbers are found in nature. So what number do you find in nature instead of pi? You are mixing things up: at first you talked about numbers, now you talk about constants. Nobody here is doubting the existence of constants. All

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
I do not know who you are but it is obvious that you do not know very much about the philosophy of science. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread T Rittenhouse
: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section I think the most universal and mathematical number is '0'. Why that is, I don't know, but why should a number that supposedly has quantitative value represent 'nothing'. You can't put a value on something that does not exist, yet we do. It means

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Correct. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 15:23 Aihe: Re: Numbers and the Golden Section

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
That was just the point some people are trying to make: numbers exist in nature. Nobody has doubted that numbers and fomulas are extremely useful in describing natural phenomena. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:14:16 -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: David Hume to the white courtesy telephone, please! David Hume could out consume Schopenhauer and Hegel, but Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just a sloshed as Schlegel. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
Hume is famous for a reason. (My own view, however, is probably more in line with Kant's reply to Hume.) But this also fits well with the modern scientific approach to human understanding. By this I mean that what we think is a product of the brain which is a physical object that works by some

Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 16:31 Aihe: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Hume is famous for a reason. (My own view, however, is probably more in line with Kant's

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
to boing old Pentax. Perhaps some topics can be taken to private emails? Just a suggestion. Brad - Original Message - From: Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section I am essentially a good

Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Here we go again - another Pythagorean. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Whicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 20:22 Aihe: Re:

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go again - another Pythagorean. Hmm, I would have said Platonist. -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Whicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 20:22 Aihe: Re: Numbers and

Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
. joulukuuta 2002 21:22 Aihe: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go again - another Pythagorean. Hmm, I would have said Platonist. -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Whicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Mark Roberts
viesti- Lähettäjä: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 21:22 Aihe: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go again - another Pythagorean. Hmm, I would have said Platonist

Vs: Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Raimo Korhonen
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 22:36 Aihe: Re: Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Raimo Korhonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not far off - but Plato´s theory was about ideas of things, not numbers. Ah no! Plato's theory was about ideas *themselves*! Foremost among

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Peter Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section I think the most universal and mathematical number is '0'. Why that is, I don't know, but why should a number that supposedly has quantitative value represent

Re[2]: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-30 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Tuesday, December 31, 2002, 11:48:43 AM, you wrote: I'm glad you said that. It needed to be said. At 06:07 AM 12/30/2002 -0500, you wrote: Zero is not a number, it is a place holder. Funny thing is that without it mathematics is very difficult. you're confusing the value with the

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Peter Alling
You mean it doesn't??? At 07:47 PM 12/29/2002 +0100, you wrote: It is the other way round. Tell me one instance when a number has been observed in the nature. Lots of numbers can be found in the observations of nature which describe it - but these numbers are just descriptions. The laws

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread T Rittenhouse
, December 30, 2002 1:23 AM Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section You mean it doesn't??? At 07:47 PM 12/29/2002 +0100, you wrote: It is the other way round. Tell me one instance when a number has been observed in the nature. Lots of numbers can be found in the observations of nature

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Well, I saw a Seven running around in the woods the other day. Or maybe it was those mushrooms I et. My wife is a 9.2. William Robb

Vs: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Not mine - unfortunately. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Päivä: 29. joulukuuta 2002 19:27 Aihe: Re: Vs: Numbers

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Keith Whaley
Raimo Korhonen wrote: OK - if pi can really be found in the nature, it would have been found a couple of thousands of years ago. Now we have only approximations. Silly, isn´t it? Excuse me? What _ever_ are you talking about? Pi is the mathematical expression for the ratio between a

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Brad Dobo
Another thing that is bothering me about all these threads: why is nobody complaining about all these religion posts? We're busted. WW Yes, a dis-information tactic that failed. Once we got surrounded (circled) we were defeated by Pi.

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Bob Rapp
for more than twenty five hundred years. Bob - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section - Original Message - From: T Rittenhouse Subject: Re: Vs

Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section

2002-12-29 Thread Brad Dobo
. Just a thought. Brad - Original Message - From: Bob Rapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 11:44 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section Ok, That is it! From: http://www.cecm.sfu.ca/pi/pi.html an excerpt: Pi is one of the few