RE: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-10-01 Thread Malcolm Smith
Sandy Harris wrote: > There are ways to watermark that are quite hard to detect or remove. > Quoting text I wrote most of at : > http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Steganography#Digital_watermarking > > Encryption is often used as one of the steps in steganographic hiding > of information. Consider a

RE: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-10-01 Thread Malcolm Smith
John wrote: > I don't watermark, but that doesn't mean that you (or anyone else > shouldn't). > > I'm in the "You should only watermark images when you think it will > deter some unscrupulous asshole from stealing them" camp ... although > it doesn't seem like it actually does deter them. > > I

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-10-01 Thread John
I don't watermark, but that doesn't mean that you (or anyone else shouldn't). I'm in the "You should only watermark images when you think it will deter some unscrupulous asshole from stealing them" camp ... although it doesn't seem like it actually does deter them. I don't watermark the rare PES

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-10-01 Thread Sandy Harris
David Mann wrote: > On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:04 am, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> If someone does steal an image outright, removal of the watermark >> works against them in court and can net you extra damages. > > If you can even get them to court, nevermind afford the lawyers to try. There are ways to

RE: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-10-01 Thread Malcolm Smith
Thanks for the replies, Ann, Igor & Mark, The point about theft with a watermarked image is well made. I'm not sure how practical in terms of litigation it would be for someone in one country to try and stop the use of a stolen image in another part of the world, but in many ways it's beside the p

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread David Mann
On Oct 1, 2015, at 10:04 am, Mark Roberts wrote: > If someone does steal an image outright, removal of the watermark > works against them in court and can net you extra damages. If you can even get them to court, nevermind afford the lawyers to try. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail L

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread ann sanfedele
smugmug puts watermarks on my work for me on my page thereaslong as I've specified that for a specific gallery I'm loading a photo into- any of you who have looked at my photos there will note that the watermark is small... ala the way Mark does his. On facebook, unless I really don't care ifso

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I have almost the same view on watermarking images as what Mark described. To add some details to what Mark wrote: 1. I allow people using photos with themselves for their person non-commercial use (e.g. posting on their facebook page). In that case, I'd like people to see who took that photo.

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Malcolm Smith wrote: >With recent discussion about pictures getting taken by unscrupulous >individuals and passed off as their own, or being used in part of an image >etc, what is the view of watermarking images that are posted by folk here? > >The views I've read seem to vary; those in the 'no' c

RE: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
P.J. Alling wrote: > Any watermark that can't be removed or cropped off, annoys the viewer > and ruins the image. Any digital watermark that's hidden in the image > can be stripped out. But, just ask Dave Brooks, if watermarks actually > discourage theft. If you display hundreds of high class i

Re: Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread P.J. Alling
Any watermark that can't be removed or cropped off, annoys the viewer and ruins the image. Any digital watermark that's hidden in the image can be stripped out. But, just ask Dave Brooks, if watermarks actually discourage theft. On 9/30/2015 3:36 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: With recent discuss

Watermarked pictures for display on the internet.

2015-09-30 Thread Malcolm Smith
With recent discussion about pictures getting taken by unscrupulous individuals and passed off as their own, or being used in part of an image etc, what is the view of watermarking images that are posted by folk here? The views I've read seem to vary; those in the 'no' camp because you should only