Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Alan C wrote: > The rip-off artists are those taking sporting shots like road running. Meep meep > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

The photographer's contract with the school photo company is almost certainly "work for hire" with the photo company owning the copyrights. That's why there are no examples of the photographer's school photo work on his website. On 2/21/2018 10:20, Igor PDML-StR wrote: HAR! People with

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Many thanks to all who replied to this thread. Those replies gave me useful information as well as the spectrum of opinions and views from other people (who know about photography). I was especially thrilled to hear detailed stories from the "insiders", Bill and Doug, who know the situation

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

That's an interesting story! Thanks a lot for sharing, Bill! A few quick comments: 1. I would have assumed that "our" photo outlet would be using a standardized setting (a conveyor as you described, that removes thinking from the process, but also reduces chances for errors). I am content

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Igor, I am a survivor of the school photography grind as well as other strains of the volume portrait biz. In schools I was primarily involved in individual sets, but also tasked with group wrangling until I moved into shooting groups as needed. Interestingly, my other duty was to track down

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

On 2/21/2018 9:20 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: HAR! People with K-{1,3,5} are overqualified for that job! ;-) BTW, regarding using their own gear: There could be an interesting twist if the photographers are using their own gear, especially if they are getting 1099 tax form, and not W-2 (which

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

HAR! People with K-{1,3,5} are overqualified for that job! ;-) BTW, regarding using their own gear: There could be an interesting twist if the photographers are using their own gear, especially if they are getting 1099 tax form, and not W-2 (which might be the case, especially it sounds like

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Again, going by my experience having my photo taken a dozen times while I was in school, the photographer brought along a stool, a white roll paper backdrop with stands to hold it up, the long roll film camera and one light stand with an umbrella. The light wasn't even a strobe. The umbrella

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

On 2/21/2018 09:02, Igor PDML-StR wrote: So, thinking about the responses from PDMLers and the information I found myself, I realized what question I should have asked: Does anybody know if this area of photography (children's group photos) allow to have a reasonable business? By

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Igor PDML-StR wrote: PS. And one more question: As Larry concluded as well, - it looks like the photographer used an on-camera flash, most likely direct one (not bounced). So, is it unreasonable to expect something like a couple of umbrella or soft-box lights for this type of photographs?

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

PS. And one more question: As Larry concluded as well, - it looks like the photographer used an on-camera flash, most likely direct one (not bounced). So, is it unreasonable to expect something like a couple of umbrella or soft-box lights for this type of photographs? We are talking about a

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

So, thinking about the responses from PDMLers and the information I found myself, I realized what question I should have asked: Does anybody know if this area of photography (children's group photos) allow to have a reasonable business? By "reasonable", I mean affordable for customers,

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Around here the school photo business is mostly wrapped up by Strawbridge Studios. They've been in business for 95 years. They did all of my school photos from first grade through High School senior year. http://www.strawbridge.net/ I remember from my (pre-digital) school daze they used 70mm

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

The rip-off artists are those taking sporting shots like road running. Alan C -Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR Sent: 21 February, 2018 7:24 AM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs I thought the company was some sort of a franchise with

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Igor PDML-StR wrote: So, here comes my question: On this year photograph, I see two kids with their eyes closed, and three with their eyes not visible at all because their glasses were totally covered by the flash reflection. So, 5 out of 19 kids (and 3 teachers) have their eyes not

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

> On 21 February 2018 at 00:01 Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > My thinking is as follows: > Seating-session photographs (i.e. posed) is a separate area where one > needs to have a skill to have it right (setting, light, poses, people > management), plus some when it concerns

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

I thought the company was some sort of a franchise with a few local outlets, but upon digging, I've found that it is a well-established outlet with one office and a studio in Austin, and just contact phones (look like cell phones) in 5 more Texas cities, including Houston (covering Eastern,

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

It's an assembly line process. The photographer maybe has 15 minutes to get the group in, seated & settled down. He'll be lucky if he gets time to shoot 3 frames, so approx 23% of the students with their eyes closed ain't bad. Probably gets better with high school students and worse with

Re: Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Depends on what the photographer was paid. Probably next to nothing, so the results are proportionate. Paul > On Feb 20, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > > Dear PDMLers, > > I'd like to hear your opinion on this, especially from the point of view of > those

Your opinion about school (group) photographs

Dear PDMLers, I'd like to hear your opinion on this, especially from the point of view of those who did/does "seating session" photography (if anybody). We just received the annual class photograph for my child. (We usually do not purchase individual ones, but buy group photographs, as a