any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
Hi, Coming out of the lurking mode, I would like to get your views/opinion on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D) assuming no existing investment in lenses/flashes? The Pentax kit is around $100 cheaper in the US. Is Canon auto-focus better than the Pentax under normal lighting conditions? I am just a

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Adam Maas
I haven't shot the K100D, but I have used the DL, DS, D and the Rebel. Ergonomically, the Pentax's are far better. More comfortable to shoot with, far better viewfinder, better control layout. And the Pentax 18-55 is a significantly better lens than the Canon 18-55, with better build, quick-shi

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Mat Maessen
On 8/21/06, Gaurav Aggarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Coming out of the lurking mode, I would like to get your views/opinion > on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D) assuming no existing investment in > lenses/flashes? The Pentax kit is around $100 cheaper in the US. Is If the K100D is put

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Toralf Lund
> I haven't shot the K100D, but I have used the DL, DS, D and the Rebel. > > Ergonomically, the Pentax's are far better. More comfortable to shoot > with, far better viewfinder, better control layout. And the Pentax 18-55 > is a significantly better lens than the Canon 18-55, with better build,

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Toralf Lund
> I currently shoot ME Super with 35-105 f/3.5 and 70-210 f/4 but would > rather move > to auto-focus since I not too sure if I can use MF lenses without any > manual focus assist on the K100D. > Surely, the K100D has manual focus assist, too? OK, it doesn't come with a split-image screen or a

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/8/06, Toralf Lund, discombobulated, unleashed: >It also seems like most people here agree that the Pentax AF is >generally more accurate than the competitor's systems (including I >suppose, Canon's.) Haven't done a lot of comparisons myself. Toralf, it depends on the camera. I had a Canon

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Not noticeably, as far as the Rebel is concerned, at least compared to the *ist-D/Ds, the K100D is supposed to have improved autofocus. The Rebel is an 8mp camera, the K100D is 6mp but has in camera shake reduction, the same feature requires special, (expensive), lenses on the Canon. The upgr

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Adam Maas
Toralf Lund wrote: >>I haven't shot the K100D, but I have used the DL, DS, D and the Rebel. >> >>Ergonomically, the Pentax's are far better. More comfortable to shoot >>with, far better viewfinder, better control layout. And the Pentax 18-55 >>is a significantly better lens than the Canon 18-55,

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread aaron
I've heard that complaint, but I have not experienced it -- I've shot about 20,000 frames on my DS2, significantly more than half of them with either the A* 400 2.8 or the A* 200 2.8 wide open, and I've found the focus indicator to be very accurate and useful. However, when shooting with such n

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-21 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/21/2006 1:23:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I currently shoot ME Super with 35-105 f/3.5 and 70-210 f/4 but would rather move to auto-focus since I not too sure if I can use MF lenses without any manual focus assist on the K100D. Thanks a lot! Gaurav =

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On 8/22/06, Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for speed, I've tried the 350D only with the kit lens, and it didn't > strike me as being faster than what I'm used to from older film > Pentaxes. As people are reporting a somewhat significant speedup on the > K100D compared to older digita

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread graywolf
A little comment on megapixels here. Doubling your megapixels only give you a 1.4x increase in resolution. In other words if you go from 6 megapixels to 12 megapixels your 11x14 prints will have the same resolution as your 8x10 prints do now. That being so a jump from 6 to 8 or 10 is hardly wor

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Vid Strpic
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: > On 8/22/06, Toralf Lund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As for speed, I've tried the 350D only with the kit lens, and it didn't >> strike me as being faster than what I'm used to from older film >> Pentaxes. As people are reporting a somewhat significant speedup on t

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:09:42 EDT In a message dated 8/21/2006 1:23:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I currently shoot ME Super with 35-105 f/3.5 and 70-210 f/4 but would rather move to auto-focus s

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote: > I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest > possible > time. No information to that, just common sense. Won't that destroy the market for their pricey lenses with anti-shake in them? -Aaron -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail L

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
tax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:20:21 -0400 On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote: > I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest > possible > time. No

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread John Forbes
Of course it will, which is why they have a bit of a dilemma. It will be most interesting to see whether they decide to sacrifice sales of low-end cameras, or high-end IS lenses. John On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:20:21 +0100, Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Only if they introduce less pricey lenses of equal aperture and focal lengths to those pricey lenses. Plus internal IS probably won't work with FF camera bodies, at least not as currently configured. I doubt many Digital Rebel users are buying IS 80-200 F2.8 L glass. Canon has been in the en

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
d, briefed, debriefed or numbered." From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:36:07 +0100 Of course it will, which

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread graywolf
> high quailty lenses w/o the expensive AS built in. > > > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
n Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 12:20:21 -0400 > > > On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote: > > >

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
Aaron Reynolds wrote: > On Aug 22, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom C wrote: > > >>I would expect Canon to implement in-body anti-shake at the soonest >>possible >>time. No information to that, just common sense. > > > Won't that destroy the market for their pricey lenses with anti-shake > in them? >

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Toralf Lund
Tom C wrote: > I suspect they will gain more in sales of bodies and systems across the > board than they would lose on the relatively fewer sales of high-margin IS > lenses. > > If they don't take this route they will be making a major marketing faux-pas > which will benefit all other DLSR mfrs.

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Tom C wrote: > Only to be regained by the ability to sell more camera bodies and lower cost > high quailty lenses w/o the expensive AS built in. You don't mean to say that Canon had better for the customer and more affordable technology available to them but preferred to scr

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/8/06, Tom C, discombobulated, unleashed: >I would expect them to start implementing anti-shake/image-stabilization in >most if not all new model bodies, sell off the existing IS lens stock, >replacing it with lenses using the same optical formula, without the IS. Can't see that happening.

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
Actually Pentax DSLR's are DX format (23.5 x 15.7 mm) also, aren't they, using the same Sony sensors (at least on the *ist D)? Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." > >Nikon is the one in a real bind, with their concentration on DX format >bod

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Adam Maas
Yes they are, but Pentax doesn't make VR/IS lenses to compete with SR-equipped bodies. Canon has a good reason to stick to IS lenses or do both, the full-frame bodies. Nikon doesn't. -Adam Tom C wrote: > Actually Pentax DSLR's are DX format (23.5 x 15.7 mm) also, aren't they, > using the sam

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
d, debriefed or numbered." >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:43 -0600 > >Actually Pentax DSLR's are

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread Tom C
List >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? >Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:20:27 -0600 > >Funny that I've seen the APS-C nomenclature wrecklessly bandied about here >(me too) regarding sub-35mm digital sensors, when in reality that's

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread P. J. Alling
; >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > > > > > > > >>From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>To: pdml@pdml.net >>Subject: Re: any vie

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? > Well I guess they're all generically called APS-C regardless of actual > physical dimensions. I figure it's close enough for folk music. Sometimes, it is best to

Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)?

2006-08-23 Thread John Forbes
t; > >> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: Re: any views on K100D vs. Canon Rebel XT (350D)? >> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 18:15:43 -0600 >> >> Actually Pentax DSLR's are D