Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Bray wrote: >On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> "Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." >> >> I nominate Tim. > >OK: >https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2c&hl=en_US&authkey=CPSu6bAG > >T

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't think I have made enough use of my K28 3.5. JCO swears by it. I need to just stick it on the K7 so I actually take it with me. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> So I thought I would ask PDML members for thei

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> "Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." >> >> I nominate Tim. > > OK: > https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Ecke PDML
I think my DFA 100 was my sharpest lens, /was/ because I had to sell it for lack of funds. The DFA 50 will have to go next. Those are/were the sharpest two in my stable. =( Ecke 2011/6/28 Scott Loveless : > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> So I thought I would ask PDML memb

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Scott Loveless
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens > (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: > Overall > and > Wide Open I once had an M28/3.5 that I could have used to shave my beard. Of my current s

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
Good job, Tim. I'm a little surprised by the absence of the DA70. Maybe no one has one? On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:38 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: >> "Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." >> >> I nominate Tim. > > OK: > h

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-06-28 2:38 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: "Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2c&hl=en_US&authkey=CP

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-28 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/28/2011 09:43, Rob Studdert wrote: On 28 June 2011 16:38, Tim Bray wrote: Think I need an FA77... -T Sure so long as perceived sharpness is preferable to veiling flare in your list of lens essentials. I beg to differ, Rob. My silver FA77 is as fine as any other SMC optic I have. Y

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 June 2011 16:38, Tim Bray wrote: > Think I need an FA77... -T Sure so long as perceived sharpness is preferable to veiling flare in your list of lens essentials. -- Rob Studdert (Digital  Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: dist

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-27 Thread Tim Bray
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > "Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." > > I nominate Tim. OK: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AogBdTEc87UVdGZqd2tGdjdiZDU5cDJ6cV9ZU2d5c2c&hl=en_US&authkey=CPSu6bAG Think I need an FA77... -T

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-27 Thread Cotty
On 23/6/11, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >The A*85/1.4 is OK wide open as well. I think that's an understatement. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discus

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-27 Thread Steven Desjardins
"Someone should run through the thread and tally the votes." I nominate Tim. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > Another vote here for the 50-135.  No, I haven't measured, that wind > blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. > > Often perceived sharpness is a function of Do

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-26 Thread Tim Bray
Another vote here for the 50-135. No, I haven't measured, that wind blowing flapping your undies is my arms waving. Often perceived sharpness is a function of DoF. The 21mm Limited isn't all that sharp, but when you're taking pictures of mountains and skyscrapers and so on... Someone should run

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-24 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 22 June 2011 16:25, Darren Addy wrote: > I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a great > optical design. > There have been several lenses that have been claimed to be the > "sharpest" in the

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-24 Thread William Robb
On 23/06/2011 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: I have the 55/1.4 and quite enjoy that lens. In the film era I had an FA*85/1.4, the 55 reminds me of that lens. And that lens was very very nice in many respects. I regret selling it but I needed to finance purchase of my 77mm which had equivalent

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Stan Halpin
On Jun 23, 2011, at 2:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > >> I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank >> at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. >> Cheers, Christine >> >

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread William Robb
So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Overall, My Nikkor 210/5.6 4x5 lens. It covers 5x7 so movements are a bit limited, but at f/22 to f/45 it is slice your eyes out sharp. Wi

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread steve harley
On 2011-06-23 14:04 , Darren Addy wrote: I'm always confused when people bring up the "pixel peeper" label as if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our images (film or digital). i don't print images and my display only has 1920x1200 pixels, so it's only when i zoom in to 100% tha

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-06-23 2:56 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine A lens that seems conspicuo

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Ecke PDML wrote: > No offense I hope > Ecke None taken. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Bong Manayon
The FA 77/1.8 & the K 135/2.5. Although ever since I got the K-5 everything else became sharp... On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
OK let's just say I take a less analytic approach... I either like an image or I don't. I'd never make a good wine taster. No offense I hope Ecke 2011/6/23 Darren Addy : > I'm always confused when people bring up the "pixel peeper" label as > if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Darren Addy
I'm always confused when people bring up the "pixel peeper" label as if our eyes can't distinguish relative sharpness in our images (film or digital). Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDM

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Ecke PDML
My sharpest lens is always the one on my camera for some reason. When I look through the others the images are usually upside down and rather blurry. Plus they never take good pictures like my camera does when I point it in the right direction. In other words, I am not a pixel peeper - I lack both

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 23, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: > I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank > at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. > Cheers, Christine > A lens that seems conspicuously absent from this discussion i

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread Christine Aguila
I don't test, but I think my DA* 50-135mm and the FA 50mm f 1.4 might rank at the top, but I have to say, I'm happy with the quality of all my lenses. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 10:25 AM S

RE: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-23 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and the FA135 2.8

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/22/2011 18:25, Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open Darren, this is a tricky question. So here is my tricky answer. 1. Most importantly, I almost always

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Ken Waller
e: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love F

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeo

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Igor Roshchin
> The other reason that my lenses are rarely the limiting factor is that > one of my many peculiarities is that I seem to have more fun working > hard to get a decently sharp picture out of lousy light, than I do > getting a fantastically sharp picture in good light. If anyone could > take a pic

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Stan Halpin
> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri >> Cartier-Bresson > >> So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens >> (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: >> Overall

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Cassino
Sinc eyou don't ask sharpest *working* lens I'd say the A* 200 f4 macro ED. Other notables that come to mind would be an M 50 f4 macro, both M and FA 50 1.7, and (stopped down) Takumar 105 f2.5 (6x7). The D-FA 100 f2.8 is right up there too. MCC On 2011-06-22 09:25 , Darren Addy wrote: > So I

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Stan Halpin
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> >> So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens >> (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: >> Overall and Wide Open > > I don't know, I really don't. I guess I'd have to say my Leica f2.0

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > > So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens > (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: > Overall > and > Wide Open > > Darren Addy > Kearney, Nebraska. For my 6x7 it is the 200mm tak. Love th

re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I have finally sold all my mediocre lenses. The remainder are all sharp. #1 FA50/1.4 #2 FA28/2.8 #3 FA24-90 #4 A70-210 Oops. Got a generic 500/8 t-mount yesterday. Might keep it for baseball/Wrigley. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org "He is no fool who gives what he

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Jim King
frank theriault wrote Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:11:18 -0700 > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > > I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri > > Cartier-Bresson > > Thank you. ;-) > > > > So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which l

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri > Cartier-Bresson Thank you. ;-) > So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens > (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: > Ove

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor  in the sharpness of my photos. MARK!! (that could be the quote of the year so far, BTW) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Disc

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. > > Do you imply they are sharper than you? ;-) That's not setting the bar very high. > > You should s

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: > A sharpened member could lead to a prick. PDML has several members who, on occasion, might match that description. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:47 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Who would sharpen their member? A sharpened member could lead to a prick. > > On 6/22/2011 3:34 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: >> >> I [mis]read the topic as: "PDMLers: what is your SHARPEST member?" >> >> Cheers, >> >> Igor >> >> > > > -- > Wher

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
Who would sharpen their member? On 6/22/2011 3:34 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I [mis]read the topic as: "PDMLers: what is your SHARPEST member?" Cheers, Igor -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Igor Roshchin
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor in the sharpness of my photos. Do you imply they are sharper than you? ;-) You should stop that self-flagellation! :-) Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pd

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Ken Waller
Being evasive are we Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens? On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: My lenses are very rarely th

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Ken Waller
With out a doubt my 200mm f4.0 ED Macro SMC Pentax A*, although I've never run any objective tests to compare it with my other lenses. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Darren Addy" Subject: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread P. J. Alling
The sharpest lens I own is the Vivitar 90-180m f4.5 flat field. That's just purely subjective, no actual testing. It is however not particularly convenient being heavy, relatively slow, and requiring the green button kludge to meter properly. Of my Pentax lenses, the 43mm limited is best st

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2011-06-22 11:25, Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: I couldn't tell you from direct experimentation or measurement, but my instinct is that it's probably either the K 135/2.

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor  in the sharpness of my photos. True dat! Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDM

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 22, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: snip > > > So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens > (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: > Overall > and > Wide Open snip > > What say you? My lenses are very rarely the limiting factor

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread steve harley
On 2011-06-22 09:25 , Darren Addy wrote: So I thought I would ask PDML members for their opinions on which lens (or lenses) they would rank as the sharpest in their stable: Overall and Wide Open i'm pretty sure my A 50/1.7 and M 50/1.4 are quite sharp, not sure which is sharper but i use the

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Bruce Walker
I'd have to say the DA 35mm 1:2.8 Macro Limited; O & WO. It's so sharp I have to handle it with gloves on. -bmw On 11-06-22 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson yet there is little that exceeds sharpness as the mark of a g

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Thibouille
I'll say 50-135. 2011/6/22 Steven Desjardins : > Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would > have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and > the FA135 2.8. > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >> I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
Overall and wide open, my sharpest lens is undoubtedly the DA* 60-250/4. if restricted to one stop, my k 85/1.8 might well be the sharpest, probably at f 5.6. My K 28/3.5 was amazingly sharp at f 5.6 and f8, but I no longer own that lens. I have several FA lenses. I don't find any of them to be

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Steven Desjardins
Assuming we are talking about sharpness at optimum aperture, I would have to say my FA50 1.4, closely followed by the FA100 2.8 macro and the FA135 2.8. On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > I love Frank's sig: "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri > Cartier-Bresson > yet

Re: PDML members: What is your SHARPEST lens?

2011-06-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Out of all the Pentax lenses I owned and used, the FA43, FA77 and DA21 were the best performers, in that order, overall. (My use of them inverted the order in general...) I don't do technically viable resolution and contrast test from which to infer what their specific performance wide open might b