Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-27 Thread Margus Männik
Your own choice... serve your country well and they'll give you special permit for Four Seasons underwear... :) BR, Margus John Sessoms wrote: From: Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. But they must be numbered by week as well.

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-27 Thread Bob Blakely
Nah. You're Canadian. If it's warm and if it ain't wet, just stay cozy. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread Mme RD
Oh well, don't know about the US but over here your life expectancy is 10mn on the emergency lane on a highway ... and we still wouldn't be wearing seatbelts if it weren't for the nanny ... since july 1st any driver must have this kind of flashy yellow vest in the car . Hence the ad

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread Bob Blakely
No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself. They're pretty bad. I grieve over them long winter evenings. -- Philip Marlowe

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: the nanny state continues to grow ... No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. But they must be numbered by week as well. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Loveday
No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. But they must be numbered by week as well. So you're telling me we have to change them _every week_ now?! - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Peter Loveday Subject: Re: the nanny state continues to grow ... No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. But they must be numbered by week as well. Or be a rebel. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-26 Thread John Sessoms
From: Peter Loveday [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, you may continue to wear your Months of the Year underwear. But they must be numbered by week as well. So you're telling me we have to change them _every week_ now?! Yup ... whether you need to or not. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-25 Thread Cotty
On 24/10/08, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Although, I should say that last two weeks were especially bloody on Israeli roads, at least half-dozen hit-and-run-away accidents all endings in death or severe injury of the victim. Yiddish photogs are especially despised. ;-)

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-25 Thread David J Brooks
When i started in surveying in 1973, safety was non existent. I remember trying to check some girder levels at the resturant level of the CN Tower. No glass in yet. My tie off was my party chief holding on to my belt, as i leaned over to hold the level rod. I forget what the height is of the

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-25 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. Yes, exactly. I have nothing against being safe and visible.

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey, from outside of US of A, your sentiment appears more towards the overreacting end of the spectrum. Although, I should say that last two weeks were especially bloody on Israeli roads, at least half-dozen hit-and-run-away accidents all endings in death or severe injury of the victim.

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
'60's Pogo comic strip for sure. One of the lasting truths from the cartoonists. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:23 PM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, we - as a nation - keep voting nannys into office. We have no one to blame but

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for your concerned comment. G On Oct 24, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Godfrey, from outside of US of A, your sentiment appears more towards the overreacting end of the spectrum. Although, I should say that last two weeks were especially bloody on Israeli roads, at least

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 23, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Cotty wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. Yes, exactly. I have nothing against being safe and visible. But

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. Yes, exactly. I have nothing against being safe and visible. But declaring it a law and threatening

RE: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Bob W
[...] Next thing you know, they'll make it mandatory for all the automobile manufacturers to install seat-belts. Indeed. And airbags too. Soon they'll tell you what sort of underpants you can wear, and when. G They've already installed CCTV in my underpants. Bob -- PDML

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/24/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. Yes,

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 24, 2008, at 18:46, Scott Loveless wrote: Are you saying I don't absolutely have to wear days-of-the-week underwear? Just make sure that the animal on the underwear label matches the animal on the shirt label and you'll be fine. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob W Subject: RE: the nanny state continues to grow ... They've already installed CCTV in my underpants. And we just thought you were happy all the time William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo

the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Come on. Even Lagerfeld wears one... http://blog.patricegabin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/jaunetmoche.jpg The copy says: It's yellow, it's shabby, it doesn't

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Doug Brewer
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. G I guess requiring drivers to pay attention is out of the question. Also, if everyone else is wearing one of these things and you're not, wouldn't you be the most visible? -- PDML

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Personally, I think those vests look rather jaunty. ;-) Okay, seriously, you wouldn't catch me dead in one of those. Perhaps dead

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess requiring drivers to pay attention is out of the question. Also, if everyone else is wearing one of these things and you're not, wouldn't you be the most visible? I'm always visible due to the aluminium foil helmet

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 03:56:58PM -0400, frank theriault wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Personally, I think those vests look rather jaunty. ;-)

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/23/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think this has anything to do with any nanny states though. My take is that it's about federal versus state funding and about who bears liability in the event of an incident. It's about an overly litigious society that has to

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/10/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. I carry a hi-vis vest that I wear when working on roads or highways - I'd rather be seen and not hit! I

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's about the Fed passing yet another law that puts the financial burden of enforcement on the States. It's a strong arm tactic. Either you enforce it, or we pull your highway funding. Unfortunately, most States just

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Cory Waters
frank theriault wrote: Okay, seriously, you wouldn't catch me dead in one of those. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#149023483_6kmS2-A-LB Wished I'd had a reflective orange vest when this bloke was bearing down on me... CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: Unfortunately it gives the cops yet another excuse to harass you if you try and take photographs of anything going on. That may, in fact, be the point... :( -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/23/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: Unfortunately it gives the cops yet another excuse to harass you if you try and take photographs of anything going on. That may, in fact, be the point... :( So you tag team them. Show up in pairs and approach

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: Okay, seriously, you wouldn't catch me dead in one of those. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#149023483_6kmS2-A-LB Wished I'd had a reflective orange vest when this bloke was

RE: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Bob W
frank theriault wrote: Okay, seriously, you wouldn't catch me dead in one of those. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2793835_9yqag#149023483_6kmS2-A-LB Wished I'd had a reflective orange vest when this bloke was bearing down on me... CW Looks like you shave your legs and stick the

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 05:06:03PM -0400, Scott Loveless wrote: On 10/23/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: Unfortunately it gives the cops yet another excuse to harass you if you try and take photographs of anything going on. That may, in fact, be

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like you shave your legs and stick the trimmings on your face. There are a few things: a) I didn't shave my legs this year for the first time in about 8 years - I think my smooth-legged days are behind me, b) I was

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. G I guess requiring drivers to pay attention is out of the question. Being more visible to drivers who ARE paying attention might help them

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Personally, I think those vests look rather jaunty. ;-) Okay, seriously, you wouldn't

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm always visible due to the aluminium foil helmet that I wear to ward off alien radio waves... cheers, frank Geez Frank, get with the program. Everybody knows aluminum foil is useless for that sort of thing. NASA or NSA or NRA, did a study years

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Ken Waller
Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the nanny state continues to grow ... http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

RE: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Paul Ewins
On the other hand, glass half-full and all that, if you do have one of the vests then you are more likely to blend in and be ignored in a variety of situations. The vest will make you look like you belong there. Paul -Original Message-

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, we - as a nation - keep voting nannys into office. We have no one to blame but orselves. We have met the enemy and he is us! Walt Kelly, on a 1970 anti-pollution poster for Earth Day. Regards Bob... --- I don't mind if you

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread David Savage
2008/10/24 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Personally, I think those vests look rather jaunty. ;-) Okay, seriously, you wouldn't

RE: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Coyle
-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: the nanny state continues to grow ... Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. Come on. Even Lagerfeld wears one... http://blog.patricegabin.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Scott Loveless
On 10/23/08, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note too, that the French text at the foot of the page reads: Vest and triangle are becoming compulsory in every vehicle. Get them now. I specifically remember triangles and first-aid kits being required in Germany during the 80s. Wonder what

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: the nanny state continues to grow ... Well, we - as a nation - keep voting nannys into office. We have no one to blame but orselves. We keep voting in lawyers. They are even worse. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, we - as a nation - keep voting nannys into office. We have no one to blame but orselves. We have met the enemy and he is us! Walt Kelly, on a 1970 anti-pollution poster for Earth Day. I remember it from a 60s Pogo strip ... re-cycled for that

Re: the nanny state continues to grow ...

2008-10-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 23, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Cotty wrote: http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2008/10/safety.html I hate this stuff. I hate it when it becomes law - too over the top. Yes, exactly. I have nothing against being safe and visible. But declaring it a law and threatening highway