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2010-11-24 Thread Jeffery Smith
Robert White (England) used to sell Voigtlander stuff below the US prices, and I bought quite a bit of stuff from him for a few years. I know that shipping to/from US/AUS can be prohibitive, are there also VAT issues? I once thought of buying an Epiphone guitar from Australia (a discontinued mo

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2010-11-24 Thread drd1135
I plan to look into repair. I've also realized that a cheap 18-55 might be useful as well. -Original Message- From: drd1...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:04:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I can well

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2010-11-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Tanya Love wrote: >So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your >words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: > >1.

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2010-11-24 Thread paul stenquist
That would be the Sigma lens. On Nov 24, 2010, at 7:01 AM, paul stenquist wrote: > With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum > of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very > high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much co

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2010-11-24 Thread paul stenquist
With the k5, the 12-24 won't be too slow, because you'll be gaining a minimum of two stops of upward ISO latitude over the K-7. That said, Adam has a very high opinion of the Sigma lense. I don't have much confidence in Sigma quality, but it might be worth giving this one a try. Paul On Nov 23,

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2010-11-24 Thread Tanya Love
e I should just suck it up and handle the slowness of the 12-24mm... hm, decisions, decisions. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2010 5:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re:

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2010-11-23 Thread Boris Liberman
On 11/24/2010 4:44 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Have you actually tried both? I did a quick and dirty test of the Sigma and found it seriously lacking. LIke most Sigma's it's build quality leaves a lot to be desired. The Pentax 12-24, on the other hand, is an excellent lens. Paul Paul, I've cheap

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2010-11-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Tanya, there is also Sigma 15-30/3.5-4.5 EX that has some acclaim. On 11/24/2010 3:10 AM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better

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2010-11-23 Thread Dario Bonazza
Stan Halpin wrote: Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get

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2010-11-23 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:54 -0600, "Jeffery Smith" wrote: > The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under? Tan is. The interesting thing about prices down under is that, although the $A has been approaching or at parity with the $US in recent months, lens prices have remained high in comp

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2010-11-23 Thread Darren Addy
If you are looking for something wider than the kit lens (18mm) then I don't know how a 16mm even qualifies. I have the Sigma 10-20mm f4.5-5.6 and love it. Shots with the 10-20mm (both models): http://www.flickr.com/groups/sigma10-20/ A few more here: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-slr-

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2010-11-23 Thread P. J. Alling
That's really not an either or choice there. Those are complementary lenses. The difference in AOV between the minimum focal lengths will be huge. 109.5° at 10mm vs 83° at 16mm (measured diagonally but you get the idea). So the answer is you should get them both. Now, isn't that easier?

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2010-11-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
The 16-50 is about $750 in the US. You are down under? Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:43 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite > varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and > the speed (and of course over

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2010-11-23 Thread Tanya Love
Thanks for all of the feedback guys. Yep, I know that the AOV is quite varied in this grouping - I am more interested really in the widest end, and the speed (and of course overall image quality etc). I'm really thinking that at f4 the 12-24 is just that bit too slow. I know that it is a lovely l

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2010-11-23 Thread P. J. Alling
pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom comparison... I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wi

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2010-11-23 Thread drd1135
I can well you a really cheap FA 20-35 that no longer focuses correctly ;-) -Original Message- From: "P. J. Alling" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 22:10:17 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: wide angle zoom

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2010-11-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't have any experience with any of those lenses, but you really seem to have three different classes of lens based on AOV. A Wide to Normal, a wider to telephoto and two ultra wides. Right now I only have the equivalent of the Wide to Normal, (Pentax FA 20-35mm), most times I don't find

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2010-11-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:44 PM, paul stenquist wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >>> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom.  I've been procrastinating on >>> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit len

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2010-11-23 Thread paul stenquist
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast >> enough, and optically, could be better

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2010-11-23 Thread paul stenquist
What Stan said. The 12-24 is probably the best choice for you at the present time. Paul On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is > that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 > f

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2010-11-23 Thread Walter Gilbert
'Round here, they'd just assume I was drunk and give me a ride home. It's a vicious cycle. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a house, and the owner shoots you. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM,

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2010-11-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
Not a problem in the South. You just have to go through the window INTO a house, and the owner shoots you. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Walter Gilbert wrote: > Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures > tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. >

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2010-11-23 Thread Walter Gilbert
Lens prices make me glad I live in a town where there are no structures tall enough from which to defenestrate myself. -- Walt On 11/23/2010 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm ki

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2010-11-23 Thread Adam Maas
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom.  I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too.  Sooo, would love to hear your > words of wisdom

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2010-11-23 Thread Stan Halpin
Go for the 12-24. 'Tis a very nice lens, as is the 16-50. The advantage is that the 12-24 will supplement your present kit; you'll still have the 18-55 for when you need a bit longer. Later when you sell another catalog or two you can upgrade the 18-55 to a 16-50. If you get the 16-50 now, you'v

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2010-11-23 Thread eckinator
I do and it is a great lens, only nit is some CA I'm seeing HTH Ecke 2010/11/24 Jeffery Smith : > I vote for #2, and I don't even have it. > > Jeffery > > On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > >> So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom.  I've been procrastinating on >> it for ages

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2010-11-23 Thread drd1135
e" Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:10:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: wide angle zoom comparison... So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with

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2010-11-23 Thread Jeffery Smith
I vote for #2, and I don't even have it. Jeffery On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Tanya Love wrote: > So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on > it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast > enough, and optically, could be better too.

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2010-11-23 Thread Tanya Love
So I really am needing a good wide angle zoom. I've been procrastinating on it for ages and "making do" with my 18-55mm kit lens, but it's not fast enough, and optically, could be better too. Sooo, would love to hear your words of wisdom in regards to comparing these: 1. Sigma Lens 20-40mm f/2.8