Dear Howard, lists -
I stumbled over a text bite from mid-October which gave me the idea that there
may be some terminological confusion at the root of some of our discussions.
Den 20/10/2014 kl. 18.19 skrev Howard Pattee
mailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com>>:
HP: Exactly. More generally, do the sym
Frederik,
Thanks for your informative post. As I remember, Edwina wrote something
similar a while back, although I do not remember any details.
You wrote,
"I think he is right that gene symbols code for functions (110414-1)
both on a specific and a more general level - on several
levels o
Mara, Clark, lists,
Clark quoted some very interesting passages in a post on Chapter 4, and
following up on one of them led me to another that seems relevant to the idea
of “adaptation to rationality”, so I’m addressing it here in connection with
Chapter 5.
Here again is the passage Clar
> On Nov 4, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>
> I place these here because I see a number of parallels between Damasio’s
> psychobiological approach to cognitive development and Peirce’s
> logical-semiotic approach.
I’d noticed years ago when I’d first encountered Damasio how much his a
A few comments, Gary F; thanks for the long post and for Damasio's excellent
selection:
I think that experience has to consist of more than Secondness. Certainly,
Secondness is basic, for it sets up and operates only within differentiation
between the Self and Other. But this is a mechanical ac
Gary F., Mara, Clark, lists,
In your quote from "Mr. Peterson's Proposed Discussion" (_The Monist_ v.
XVI n. 1, January 1906, pages 147-151,
http://books.google.com/books?id=3KoLIAAJ&pg=PA147&lpg=PA147),
Peirce discusses not one but two conceptions that need names other than
that of exper
Edwina, a brief reply …
ET: I think that experience has to consist of more than Secondness.
GF: I agree. Secondness is one of three kinds of elements of experience. I just
didn’t mention the other two in this particular post.
ET: That's my question: what 'caused' consciousness and I do
Gary F- thanks for your reply.
With regard to the gradual vs punctuated views of evolution, I don't think it's
just a matter of scale. First, I certainly don't refute the reality of
continuity. To the contrary, my belief (for what it's worth) that semiosis is a
basic component of the universe
Ben,
I considered including the whole Monist passage in my post, but decided against
it. Anyway, I too see Peirce mentioning two conceptions for which he says that
the term “experience” is not suitable; but they’re not the same two that you
see. I see both of them at the very end of the pass
Gary, lists,
Responses interleaved.
On 11/4/2014 3:11 PM, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
> [GF] Ben,
I considered including the whole /Monist/ passage in my post, but
decided against it. Anyway, I too see Peirce mentioning two
conceptions for which he says that the term “experience” is not
suitable;
At 02:40 PM 11/4/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
It seems to me that you're in danger here of falling into the trap
that Howard sometimes falls into, of thinking that the existence of
discontinuities or "punctuations" refutes the reality of continuity.
HP: I have never said or implied anything lik
I agree with Howard, when he says that:
discreteness and continuity are
irreducible complementary modes of thinking.
But they are not only complementary (and I use his meaning) of thinking, but
also of existence, in the nature of Secondness and Thirdness.
Edwina
- Original Message
Howard, thanks for that clarification. But I had no idea that Peirce had
ever tried to reduce either discreteness or continuity to the other, or
derive one from the other. Can you tell us where and when he tried to do
that, or said that he had?
gary f.
-Original Message-
From: Howard Patt
At 07:30 PM 11/4/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
Howard, thanks for that clarification. But I had no idea that Peirce had
ever tried to reduce either discreteness or continuity to the other, or
derive one from the other. Can you tell us where and when he tried to do
that, or said that he had?
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