[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7705] Peirce's classifications - WAS Re: Natural Propositions Chapter 6

2014-12-08 Thread Benjamin Udell
Dear Tommi, lists, Regarding Peirce's uncertainty about the ordering of physical vs. psychical sciences, I should provide a quote because he doesn't express his uncertainty in the other sources that I provided. In his 1904 draft intellectual autobiography (L 107 and MS 914, in Ketner 2009

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Stjernfelt Seminar: Chapter 7, Dicisigns Beyond Language ~ 7.1

2014-12-08 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Thanks for this summary, Doug! (I’m including your whole post below, so the biosemiotics list can see it as well as the Peirce list.) About the case of the Danish TV journalist — as Frederik points out, it wasn’t really “fraudulent reporting”, in a sense that what the reporter said was

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7705] Peirce's classifications - WAS Re: Natural Propositions Chapter 6

2014-12-08 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Ben, Lists, Given the principles that are being used to guide the formation of the classification of the sciences, why is the division between the physical and the physical sciences a dichotomy and not a trichotomy? If this is a natural divisions between kinds of special sciences, then there

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7709] Re: Peirce's classifications -

2014-12-08 Thread Gary Richmond
Jeff, Ben, lists, The reason why Peirce includes only two branches of the special sciences in his classification of the sciences may simply be that there are some situations where there naturally are only dyads, and one sees this, for example, in places in mathematics and physics. The quotation

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7705] Peirce's classifications - WAS Re: Natural Propositions Chapter 6

2014-12-08 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jeff, lists, Peirce was using not his own trichotomical principles, but Comte's ordering principle, to /guide/ his classification of the sciences as living pursuits by actual groups of people. He was also looking for embodiments of his trichotomical principles in actual divisions of the

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7714] Re: Natural Propositions Chapter 6

2014-12-08 Thread Sungchul Ji
Howard, Stan, list, If we take the irreducibly triadic nature of the ultimate reality seriously, we probably cannot ascribe the reality to the physical world alone, the Platonic form alone, or the mental world alone, but to ALL of THESE simultaneously. Such a viewpoint may be called the

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7664] Re: Natural Propositions Chapter 6

2014-12-08 Thread Howard Pattee
Frederik and list, I agree that symbol systems are necessary from the beginning of biological evolution, as Frederik has discussed, but I still have trouble picturing the icons, indices, Dicisigns, and propositions at the level of the cell. Evolution requires stable storage and reliable