I don't think I've been clear enough. I deal with Steven's kinds of
demands regularly. I know a guy who wants the excellent restaurant next
door shut down because of the smells that bother nobody else. He doesn't
think of the all-night bar that might replace it and fill its backyard
garden with
I only send this note now because this is the place that the clarification
belongs.
To be clear: In my view, I have not "attacked" anyone. Saying that I have
"attacked" is degrading and does not make it so. If you believe that I have
then please show me. I am certain that whatever it is, attack is
Steven, Cathy, list,
I know something of how much effort, feeling, and thought Gary puts into
peirce-l, and I generally second what Cathy says, except the part about
a break-down of genuine open-ended intellectual dialogue at peirce-l,
but on that point I'm just unsure, I'd have to go back and
Hi Steven,
I don't understand why you've been attacking Gary in the way that you have.
Gary puts in a lot of unpaid work which allows the Peirce list to
function, and also spends a great deal of time off-list having list-related
conversations which support the list, and also support individuals
i
Re:
JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16133
AM:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16142
JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16143
A. Mani, List,
Dealing with the complexities of sign relations that contain many
types o
Dear List,
I hold Ben and Cathy in the very highest regard and also my respect to
Peter Skagestad and many others in the Peirce community. This is my very
last email to Peirce-L. I will unsubscribe shortly after sending this
email.
I will continue to contribute to the study of the Peirce family,
I do own an apology to the members of Peirce-L, and in particular to Steven,
for mistakenly making public my previous message intended only for the list
managers and TPG board members. I included Peirce-L in the address list by
mistake. The matter is serious but should be dealt with in private.
Thanks for sending this Gary. I haven't been following the Peirce-L discussion
for a time (a long visit with kids and grandkids followed by a 3 week bout with
a nasty flu) and so didn't see this flair up. I'll look back over the messages
leading up to this to see if they suggest some further com
"Unconditional apology" for what, Steven? Can you show how I am "incapable
of speaking without bias"? I am sure that you cannot. What is this
"behavior" that you find "unacceptable"? Some examples. How have i put Joe
Ransdell's efforts "into disrepute" in the years that I've been moderating
this li
Dear List,
I have called for an unconditional apology from Gary Richmond and his
immediate resignation from the moderatorship of Peirce-L on the basis that
he is incapable of speaking without bias. He brings the good efforts of my
friend Joe Ransdell into disrepute. I am happy to have Gary as a re
Lists,
I had sent a version of this note to Steven off-list, but have added a
single sentence at the end because the message is being sent not only to
PEIRCE-L.
Steven,
At this point I think the list moderators/managers of both the biosemiotics
list and PEIRCE-L (we are in communication) feel th
Thread:
AM:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16107
JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16133
AM:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16142
Dr. Mani, List,
I don't recall learning anything about semi-sets or type-2 fuzzy set
list,
Jerry,
In all contexts (coding, uncertainty, roughness), entropy is seen as a
monotonic increasing function.
I don't like real-valued functions in rough sets, and if I need to
generalize it then would prefer a comparison based approach
> I am puzzled by the meaning of your statement:
>
Steven, list,
>[Steven] My point to Ben is only that you cannot put a smattering of
"some" around such definitions. [End quote]
Steven, if you want more formal definitions of the distinctions, look to
the table of summary of properties that I provided in the same initial
post in this thread.
John,
I am surprised to find that you seem to be conflating "scholarly
disagreements" and "personal attacks".
Let me make it clear. I have never engaged in "personal attacks" on
Schoredinger or Brillouin or you. I simply disagreed with some of their
(and your) theories on the relation among ne
Jerry,
You wrote:
"An essence of thermodynamic's second law is that entropy is a monotonic
decreasing function."
I presume you meant to say "a monotonic increasing function" ?
Sung
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Jerry LR Chandler wrote:
> Dear Prof. Mani:
>
> Thank you for your informed re
To answer Ben's earlier comments.
It is certainly the case that I can speak of deduction and truth systems in
logical terms with syntax and semantics. This may be what he is referring
to in terms of taking things apart and putting them back together. Speaking
formally it is important to be able to
Chemistry and biology are not my concern here. I speak only of deduction in
a purely mathematical sense.
Steven
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Jerry LR Chandler
wrote:
> Steven:
>
> I am not aware of any formalized deductive system for the pan-chemical
> sciences.
> So, the underlying issue is
Jerry,
What do you mean by " . . .because this is true for the proof theory of
chemical relations. In this form of proof theory for chemical structures,
.. " ?
I am a chemist, but it does not make an immediate sense to me.
All the best.s
Sung
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Jerry LR Chandler
Kalevi,
According to the irreducible-triadic-diagram representation of the Peircean
sign is right, Peirce did address interpretation implicitly (see Step g in
Figure 1 below), because his Interpretant may be viewed as a mind
interpreting a sign:
f g
Object
Steven:
I am not aware of any formalized deductive system for the pan-chemical sciences.
So, the underlying issue is, what is the formal logic for biophysics?
biochemistry? biology?
Alternatively, what copulates the logic of biophysics to the logic of
biochemistry?
Cheers
Jerry
On Apr 8, 20
Thread:
SJ:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16086
JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16087
JLRC:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16089
JBD:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/16090
JLRC:http://per
I am only thinking of the formalization of deduction. What problem do you
see, exactly?
My point to Ben is only that you cannot put a smattering of "some" around
such definitions.
Regards,
Steven
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Jerry LR Chandler
wrote:
> Steven:
>
> I was slightly stunned by
Dear Prof. Mani:
Thank you for your informed response.
One of the basic questions that remains open is the relation between
thermodynamics, entropy and life.
The essential mathematical basis of this openness is, in my opinion, the role
of cycles (of any finite size.)
An essence of thermodyna
Steven:
I was slightly stunned by your response.
When you write:
> I am thinking only of Babara as the starting point.
I wondered if this broad assertion refers to your views on biophysics as well
(either inferring FOL or not)?
Cheers
Jerry
On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Steven Ericsson-Zen
Barbara is the stone-deaf heroine of my novella
Aesthetics is All: Almost A Murder Mystery http://buff.ly/1CojWMH
Since my philosophical efforts have not met with a groundswell of interest,
I thought a novella whose heroine is named for a syllogism might be a
welcome respite.
Books http://buff.
I would look elsewhere, other than Charles Peirce, for inspiration
concerning death (about which he demonstrated a great deal of naive
confusion). Appeal to your abductions and less to your systematic reason.
Steven
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Jeffrey Brian Downard <
jeffrey.down...@nau.edu>
I am thinking only of Babara as the starting point.
Steven
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Jerry LR Chandler wrote:
> Ben, Steven, List:
>
> Ben: Thanks for the update on your views.
>
> I will think about your categorization for a bit and respond if anything
> trivial or better comes to mind
Prof Jerry, list
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Jerry LR Chandler
wrote:
>
> My question to you is:
>
> Is it possible to use a crisp form of hybrid logic to separate your meanings
> of entropy from thermodynamic entropy?
There are over 150 types of information related entropies (many having
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