Dear list:
Here is an explanation of the last post.
61. Modern methods have created modern science; and this century, and
especially the last twenty-five years, have done more to create new methods
than any former equal period. We live in the very age of methods. Even
mathematics and astronomy
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Best,
Jerry R
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt
wrote:
> Ben, List:
>
> Thank you for sharing these comments. I will need to take a look at the
> text of Heidegger's speech, and
Ben, List:
Thank you for sharing these comments. I will need to take a look at the
text of Heidegger's speech, and then decide whether I have anything
worthwhile to say about it myself. For now, I am simply renaming the
thread topic for the sake of clarity going forward.
Regards,
Jon
On Tue,
Dear Jon, Edwina, Helmut, Jerry, Gary:
This email chain, for me, has been one of the most interesting and useful.
I greatly appreciate the efforts of all of you to arrive at the clarity of
the last few emails in the chain. The reason I am writing this is because
it seems to me that we have
Dear list:
Plato: The Soul is older than the body, *Laws*
Aristotle: Substance/non-being is first in every sense, *Metaphysics*
Peirce: Substance and being are the beginning and end of all conception, *On
a New List of Categories*
Best,
Jerry R
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Jon Alan
Edwina, List:
ET: I don't agree that the 'blackboard' exists, and as a homogeneity - it
is not the same as Thirdness, which is habit.
Of course the blackboard does not *exist*, since its reality--or rather,
the reality of what it represents in Peirce's diagram--precedes the
emergence of *any*
1) Pure zero is NOT the continuum of Thirdness. Because Thirdness is made up of
general habits.
I agree that 'nothing in particular necessarily resulted' - i.e., there was no
agential Mind and no necessary model of the universe. Our universe could have
spontaneously generated some other
Jon, list
1) I disagree that pure energy is 'something'. I consider it as aspatial and
atemporal to be nothing.
2) I don't agree that the 'blackboard' exists, and as a homogeneity - it is not
the same as Thirdness, which is habit. The blackboard has no habits.
3) I don't think the pure chance
Edwina, List:
ET: Pure undifferentiated energy so to speak.
That sounds like *something*, rather than *nothing*.
ET: Peirce assumes all three categories as 'fundamental elements' - acting
upon each other from the beginning.
Except that the clean blackboard is there *before* any chalk mark
Edwina, Jon, Gary, list,
I think I am an agnostic. "Everything could come from nothing" (Edwina) reminds me of having read (merely) the (very) beginning of Hegels, I think it was "Science of logic". Hegel showed how dialectics leads to the evolution from "nothing" to "something", and then on to
Jon, list: I guess we'll just continue to disagree but I don't think the
outline is really that clear in Peirce's writings. I consider from his work,
that the universe began with 'nothing', in the sense that there was no
determination, no agenda, ..never mind no actualization. Pure
Hi,
I own www.existential-graph.org (for about two decades now or so ... oh my ...)
and I would be more than pleased to offer some space on my site.
Best
Frithjof
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From: CG [mailto:cg-boun...@gnowledge.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Brian Downard
Sent: Freitag, 14. Oktober
Edwina, List:
ET: So- I argue that indeed, everything could come from nothing, via the
actions of self-organization, as outlined by Peirce in the earlier
sections... 1.412.
Indeed, Nathan Houser's introduction to Volume 1 of *The Essential Peirce* (
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