Re: [PEIRCE-L] A key principle of normative semeiotic for interpreting texts

2021-10-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary F, Jon A.S., List, The introduction of psychological considerations into this discussion is, I think, important, posing perhaps some interesting challenges for Peirce's logic. GF: If two minds can be simultaneously *distinct* and *welded* into one mind *in the sign*, and the exchange of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] A key principle of normative semeiotic for interpreting texts

2021-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: GF: Yes, that’s why I specified that the Intentional Interpretant was an interpretant of *the dialogue in which he [Peirce] was currently engaged*, which continues both before and after the utterance of the focal text As a determination of the mind of the *utterer *of the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopic Analysis (was A key principle of normative semeiotic for interpreting texts)

2021-10-26 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Jerry C., List: JLRC: the text in no way addresses such as enormous constraint. ... Furthermore, phanerscopy is merely a term that is not a science in the usual sense of meaning. ... So, the suggestion that Peirce is "plainly referring" to phanerscopy is speaking for CSP ex cathedra. Here

RE: [PEIRCE-L] A key principle of normative semeiotic for interpreting texts

2021-10-26 Thread gnox
Jon AS, List, JAS: Likewise, any "determination of the mind of the utterer," including both motivation and intention, cannot be any interpretant of the sign that is currently being uttered. Instead, it still seems to me that such determinations must pertain somehow to the object of that sign,

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopic Analysis (was A key principle of normative semeiotic for interpreting texts)

2021-10-26 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon: > On Oct 25, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt > wrote: > > Jerry C., List: > > In context, Peirce is plainly referring to phaneroscopy, so "the different > indecomposable elements" are simply 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns. Jon: the text in no way addresses such as enormous constraint. One