Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
ch > Peirce seems to have discerned and which Chomsky, too seems to place in > recursion insofar as recursion is understood as a regularity which can/does > produce/generate differences in structural form. > > Best > > Jack > > From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iup

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
as it is still very much up > in the air, and, in truth, off the beaten track of what I'm supposed to be > doing (which is why I've thrown it to the "floor"!). > > Best > > Jack > > -- > *From:* peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.e

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
ck From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu on behalf of Jerry Rhee Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:58 PM To: Jon Alan Schmidt Cc: Peirce-L Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle) Dear Jack, list, You hav

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Jerry Rhee
rt, though, is that Bourdieu locates in *habitus* the >> same order of generative principle which Peirce seems to have discerned and >> which Chomsky, too seems to place in recursion insofar as recursion is >> understood as a regularity which can/does produce/generate differences

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
tood as a regularity which can/does produce/generate differences in > structural form. > > Best > > Jack > > ------ > *From:* peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu > on behalf of Jon Alan Schmidt > *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 5:36 PM >

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:54 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu<mailto:peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> mailto:peirce-l@list.iupui.edu>>; tabor...@primus.ca<mailto:tabor...@primus.ca> mailto:tabor...@primus.ca>> Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semioti

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jack, list With regard to your comment: "With regard to this, though - if the DO becomes an Object once connected to you, that is, within your universe of sensate experience, does it not hold that differences between IOs amongst various people and species imply the exist

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
-- > *From:* peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu > on behalf of JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY > *Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 3:54 PM > *To:* peirce-l@list.iupui.edu ; > tabor...@primus.ca > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All > Semiotic, No Puzzle

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
Edwina, List, You make a lot of interesting points. I agree, polysemy isn't necessarily inefficient - in fact, your point is much more interesting: from the poverty of stimulus perspective, polysemy might be viewed as the ultimate mode of efficiency (the prerequisite for abductive abstraction -

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Jack, list I think there are multiple meanings of 'efficient' and 'inefficient'. By 'inefficient', I can understand that the energy/matter of the input data can be lost [entropy]; it doesn't become part of the stored knowledge base of the Representamen/Sign. I wouldn't co

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
er 4, 2021 3:54 PM To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu ; tabor...@primus.ca Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle) Edwina, List, Thanks for you reply! An inefficient interaction provides no information; it's just brute action/reaction. Doesn&

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: Re: Cognitive Signs (was All Semiotic, No Puzzle)

2021-10-04 Thread JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY
Edwina, List, Thanks for you reply! An inefficient interaction provides no information; it's just brute action/reaction. Doesn't this depend on how we define "inefficient"? Because Peirce sets the dyadic (action/reaction) up as the most efficient - "...nothing ever happens but the continued