Dear Gary, lists,
I think "Gun country" counts as a Dicisign - it makes a pretty straightforward
claim which could be translated into the linguistic utterance like "The US is a
gunlike country". Of course, as in many artworks, the dicisign character is
deliberately weakened in order to leave so
Ben, lists,
OK, let me put it this way: a rheme can “denote” a range of possibilities — but
only if it is a symbol. Same goes for a predicate, which is symbolic by virtue
of being a necessary part of a proposition, which is a symbol (and by virtue of
being verbal). To elaborate on this, I’ll
reader’ of the sign /about/ the object (which, though
singular, can also be quite complex). Rhemes, predicates and icons
This is crucial for understanding the syntax of the dicisign, which is
the subject of NP 3.7.
gary f.
From: Benjamin Udell
*Sent:* 4-Oct-14 7:35 PM
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: [biosemiotics:7087] Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
Gary F., Tom, list,
Gary, are you sure you're not confusing denotation with designation or
indication? The denotation of 'red' is all red things, or the population of red
things; the comprehension (or significance) of '
Gary and list,
A does signify B in the first part of the quote. That's what I took as the
"operational" sense. But in the second part of the quote it says:
"If a sign, A, only denotes real objects that are a part or the whole
of the objects denoted by another sign, B, then A is said to be a
Gary F., Tom, list,
Gary, are you sure you're not confusing denotation with designation or
indication? The denotation of 'red' is all red things, or the population
of red things; the comprehension (or significance) of 'red' is the
quality _/red/ _ and all that that implies. That's why denotati
Tom, I’m afraid you’re adding to the confusion here by talking about “two kinds
of denotation.”
In a proposition, the subject denotes objects, while the predicate signifies
characters. This is what Peirce is saying in your quote from “Kaina Stoicheia”
(MS 517), and it’s the standard terminol
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From: Tom Gollier
Date: Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
To: Evgenii Rudnyi
Evgenii and list,
I find your example interesting in that the two kinds of denotation:
"If a sign, B, only signifies chara
hrman [mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca]
Sent: 2-Oct-14 6:11 PM
To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
I would say it's definitely a dicisign, an index involving an icon; but it's
the kind of index that consists in the obviously intentional co-localization
of two icons
-localization is taken up later in NP.)
gary f.
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From: Evgenii Rudnyi [mailto:use...@rudnyi.ru]
Sent: 2-Oct-14 3:15 PM
To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Example of Dicisign?
A question to better understand what dicisign is. Can one say that Gun
Count
Evgenii, lists,
I would say that 'Gun Country' is a dicisign.
Although I've haven't delved into it deeply, in Tony Jappy's book,*
Introduction to Peircean Visual Semiotics, *one finds a test Peirce gives
of what may count as a dicisign as a footnote in chapter 6, one of the
places in the book whe
A question to better understand what dicisign is. Can one say that Gun
Country by Michael Murphy is a dicisign?
http://www.artprize.org/michael-murphy/2014/gun-country
Best wishes,
Evgenii
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