Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-20 Thread Benjamin Udell
, Ben. See mine below. - Original Message - *From:* Benjamin Udell *To:* Edwina Taborsky *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2014 1:09 PM *Subject:*Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations Edwina, list, 1) You wrote, What I'm talking about is a biochemical process, where

Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-19 Thread marccu s
X can talk about a biochemical process only by some metalangue. Therefore X represents his ideas about bioproc. or for example Peirces ideas by signs. Re-presentation includes human understanding, it is not a mechanical process. Am I wrong? kindly markku sormunen Lähetetty laitteesta

Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-19 Thread marccu
: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations Markku- I'm not, in my semiosic analysis, referring to what HUMANS are talking about with their metalanguage. I'm talking about the semiosic processes that go on in the biological realm, within the, for example, cell - which has nothing to do

Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-19 Thread Benjamin Udell
Edwina, lists, You wrote, What I'm talking about is a biochemical process, where, let's say, a cell (which is a cognitive system) ingests some external data (water, nutrients) (Object) and, semiosically transforms that input data, via its mediative habits-of-organization (the

Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-19 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Thanks for your response, Ben. See mine below. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Udell To: Edwina Taborsky Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations Edwina, list, 1) You wrote, What I'm

Re: [biosemiotics:7792] Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Triadic Relations

2014-12-18 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Thanks for your comments, Ben. See mine below, but I think the post is getting messy and incomprehensible with the various post/responses all mixed up. You are probably the only one who will read it and I hope you can figure it out. I'll try colour-coding my current responses. 1) EDWINA: