Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions . Selected Passages

2014-10-04 Thread Sungchul Ji
(The undistorted figure is attached.) Ben wrote: (100414-1) “Most generally a triad is a trio. A predicate is called triadic if it is predicated of three objects like so: Pxyz. In Peirce's system a genuine triad is one involving irred

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions • Selected Passages

2014-10-03 Thread Sungchul Ji
Jon, I am afraid your answer is as incomprehensible to me as was your original remark that prompted my question. With all the best. Sung > Thread: > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14286 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14290 > GF:ht

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions . Selected Passages

2014-10-03 Thread Sungchul Ji
Ben, list, It is my understanding that the mathematical category is another name for semiosis. In other words, a category is to mathematicians hat semiosis is to semioticians. To quote Peirce from http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/rsources/76DEFS/76defs.HTM: A "sign" is anything, A, which, (1) in

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions . Selected Passages

2014-10-03 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sungchul, list I know next to nothing about category theory. Most generally a triad is a trio. A predicate is called triadic if it is predicated of three objects like so: /Pxyz/. In Peirce's system a genuine triad is one involving irreducibly triadic action, called semiosis, among three corr

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions • Selected Passages

2014-10-03 Thread Sungchul Ji
Jon "Trying to comprehend triadic relations by means of their projective trichotomies is a project ultimately doomed to fail." A couple of concrete examples would help in understanding what you mean by the doomed failure you are referring to. With all the best. Sung

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions • Selected Passages

2014-10-01 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
Jon, List: It appears to me that your distinction is one that needs to carefully examined. Please cite the reference texts. Clearly, the triadic triad is not a mathematical partition. Period. Full Stop. End of Narrative. Why anyone would thin so is beyond my comprehension. Your concerns about

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions • Selected Passages

2014-10-01 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jeff D., Jon, I'd just like to note that the questions of triads versus trichotomies is something that we've discussed a number of times at peirce-l over the years. For my part, I like using those words in the way that Jon and others have recommended - 'triad' for the triadically related sign,

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions • Selected Passages

2014-10-01 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Hello Jon, If you have links to the earlier discussions of the distinction between "triadicities" and "trichotomies", I'd like to take a look. In addition to being interested in distinction you are making, I'd like to read more about how you are thinking about the projection of the triadic rel

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions . Selected Passages

2014-09-30 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Jon, you wrote, "It has long been my practice to maintain a separation between original source texts and their various interpretant texts and I continue to believe that this is the better practice from the standpoint of both scholarship and encouraging critical thinking than dicing and slicing a so