Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-05 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I cleaned this up a bit. inity/ … amazon.com/author/stephenrose On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 8:07 AM Stephen Curtiss Rose wrote: > I am more beyond theology and the notion that any of this can be discussed > in past terms. My own sense is that we live in a semiotic sea

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-05 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I am more beyond theology and the notion that any of this can be discussed in past terms. My own sense is that we live in a semiotic sea whose signs are the information that we are all involved in sending out just by thinking. I think Peirce saw this and in fact made it at least possible to infer.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-04 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I appreciate that more than I can say as I have pretty much managed to not really connect. I am run of the mill liberal arts which I think is lots of "educated" folk. I draw blanks when things seem too complex to pass what I think of as the C. P. Snow test. No offence intended, just apples and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-04 Thread Mary Libertin
Stephen, You’re absolutely right! Nominalism is binary thinking. I wonder why Peirce never used that phrase in relation to his definition of nominalism? Yesterday I looked through all of the uses of “nominalism” in the electronic collection of Peirce’s Collected Works, and Published articles,

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Mary, list: I fully agree with you about the correlation of the two domains: theory and practice. I don't see how the one can function without the other. If you move into a focus only on theory - abstract Thirdness, then, the result can be an isolate population, so to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-04 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I find it helpful to use "binary" as an adjective when nominalism is meant. I write mainly for popular consumption. Mainly on Twitter. The reason is that more understand it in context. Nominalism is less accessable. We live in a binary world beset by what inhibits and rejects triadic thinking. As

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-04 Thread Mary Libertin
List, P-listers, Hi! The discussion below about Stamper’s Ladder brings to mind an excellent article “Levels of Representation”: https://www.lehigh.edu/~mhb0/levels.html . I am working on the space of representation and the space of representionality

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-03 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, I am so sorry to read that you broke your arm! May it completely heal--and quickly. Thanks for the link to your paper which I will look at later today. Best, Gary *Gary Richmond* *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* *Communication Studies* *LaGuardia College of the City University of New

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-02 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, list, Thanks for your response. First, as regards Stamper's ladder, I don't know if there exists a diagram which would show the modifications and augmentations which you've suggested have been made to the ladder since he devised it, but I think it might be helpful for the list to look at

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-02 Thread Gary Richmond
Gary F, Auke, List, Gary, thanks for this post.Taken in conjunction with the Ransdell passages I just copied and posted, it contributes to offering a kind of road map of how we Peirce forum members might proceed when posting and reacting to other's posts on the list. I hope that individual list

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-02 Thread gnox
Auke, list, [[ All pragmatists will further agree that their method of ascertaining the meanings of words and concepts is no other than that experimental method by which all the successful sciences (in which number nobody in his senses would include metaphysics) have reached the degrees of

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-02 Thread Auke van Breemen
Gary, List, Regarding Stampers Ladder you wrote: my interests have changed considerably in the baker's dozen of years since I wrote that paper and … RE: The ‘might’ in ‘you might be interested’ wasn’t meant as ‘you should’, but as a polite alternative to ‘may’. My aim was not to get

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-01 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, List, Thank you for reading my paper on interoperability. It would appear that a great deal of work has been done in that area since I presented that paper as the keynote at a workshop developed by Aldo de Moor, Harry Delugach, and Simon Polovina at ICCS 2006. While interoperability

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-04-01 Thread Auke van Breemen
I noticed a typo in the names. For those who did not already notice it: Jon must be John. Gary, Jon, Ronald, List, Gary, I read your

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-03-31 Thread Auke van Breemen
Gary, Jon, Ronald, List, Gary, I read your http://www.iupui.edu/~arisbe/menu/library/aboutcsp/richmond/InteropArisbe.pdf You distinguish three levels of interoperability. The Syntactic, semantic and

Re: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-03-30 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, Edwina, Dan, List, Auke wrote: AvB: I shifted from the production of objects made in arts to personal development and from there to interactions. Resulting in the application of a semiotically grounded method for conflict resolving in an educational setting,

RE: RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-03-30 Thread Auke van Breemen
Edwina, Since we are in metatalk about semiotics and its importance I take your comments as refinements and not as criticism. As are mine remarks between your lines. Auke - thanks for your post. A few comments. 1] I disagree that the analysis of Peirce is Either to focus on the terminology

Re: RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-03-30 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Auke - thanks for your post. A few comments. 1] I disagree that the analysis of Peirce is Either to focus on the terminology OR - there is no analysis but the focus is for the use of 'the general public'. The research that makes use, even without using Peircean terms,

RE: [PEIRCE-L] The pragmatics of Peirce .. and its importance

2019-03-30 Thread Auke van Breemen
Dan, Edwina, List, I agree with Dan and Edwina with an however in favor of work on the semiotic engine and its make up in the technical terms that shy off the general public. Since I started analyzing design processes of artist in the late 80’íes I tried to combine an empirical bend with