Gary F., List:
GF: If the context involves “the ideal state of complete information”, then
the contrast is between an ideal “individual” and an ideal “community”--not
between real people and real communities.
I read the context as contrasting a real individual with the ideal
community, any one
rry about that.
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> Gary f.
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> *From:* Jon Alan Schmidt
> *Sent:* 20-Dec-20 15:30
> *To:* peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was
> multiple-valued logic)
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> Gary F., List:
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: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued
logic)
Gary F., List:
I suggest that we interpret that particular statement in light of what comes
right before it.
CSP: Finally, as what anything really is, is what it may finally come to be
known to be in the ideal state of complete
Gary F., List:
I suggest that we interpret that particular statement in light of what
comes right before it.
CSP: Finally, as what anything really is, is what it may finally come to be
known to be in the ideal state of complete information, so that reality
depends on the ultimate decision of the
Thanks, Jon Alan, I think I’m aboard this train of thought, although it’s
taking me into unfamiliar territory.
I hadn’t really considered that a relation of negation can be either
symmetrical or asymmetrical. I wonder which case applies to this early (18)
remark of Peirce’s: “The individual
Gary F., List:
Returning after a few days of vacation ...
GF: Consequence comes before negation.
Indeed, I have been pointing this out for a while now. The fundamental
asymmetry of logic is why in existential graphs, besides the symmetrical
relations of coexistence (blank sheet) and individual
; dictum, that necessary reasoning only explicates the meanings of the terms of
> the premisses, to fix our ideas as to what we shall understand by the meaning
> of a term. ]]
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> Gary f.
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> From: Jerry LR Chandler
> Sent: 14-Dec-20 23:08
> To: Peirce List
> Cc: Jo
Edwina, I think this view (intelligent response, informed interacton) is called Lamarckism, has been refuted for a long time by Darwinism, but is since shortly restored in a weak form with the discovery of epigenetics.
With "perceived similarity" I meant a knowledge about similarity or
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From: Jerry LR Chandler
Sent: 14-Dec-20 23:08
To: Peirce List
Cc: Jon Alan Schmidt
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued
logic)
List:
Following Jon's assertion, an internet search reveal fresh information on the
usage of “ampliative”, starting
List:
Following Jon's assertion, an internet search reveal fresh information on the
usage of “ampliative”, starting with the citation in the Comment Dictionary.
The Commens dictionary states:
News | Posted 12/03/2017
Workshop: Ampliative Reasoning in the Sciences
Gary F., List:
GF: In logical terms, the key is that excluded middle is a principle only
of *deductive *reasoning, not of *ampliative *reasoning ...
As I mentioned, excluded middle is even narrower than that--a principle
only of *classical* deductive logic, not of *intuitionistic *deductive
Your non-answer is OK with me. .
My interpretation of your response is that your deep fears are well grounded.
Cheers
Jerry
> On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt
> wrote:
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> Jerry, List:
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> A simple Google search confirms that there is nothing "problematic" or
> "radical"
List, Helmut:
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> I think, that final causation (or induction) requires a need, which is
> something only organisms have. No stone or molecule needs anything.
I suggest that semantics of scientific causality and substantially wider than
the narrow usage suggested by your philosophy.
CSP
List, Jon:
> On Dec 14, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt
> wrote:
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> As Peirce explains in various places, ampliative reasoning produces
> conclusions that are not already contained in or implied by the premisses. As
> such, it encompasses both abductive/retroductive reasoning and
Supplement: Abduction means, that something is recognized (truly or falsely doesnt matter) as seeming like something other. That is depiction or awareness of resemblance. Please give me one example, in which this occurs besides the action of a neuronic network.
Edwina,
I seem to not
Edwina,
I seem to not come through. I dont know, chance is something quite trivial for me, and abduction something more complex. To mentally abduct something means to copy it. Chance is just incertainty. Incertainty occurs in the physicochemical realm, but the ability of copying something reqires
Jerry, List:
A simple Google search confirms that there is nothing "problematic" or
"radical" about the well-established definition of "ampliative reasoning"
within the discipline of logic.
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran
Helmut - we'll just have to disagree!
I consider that chance is a basic attribute of abduction, where an
aberration from the norm appears, and the Mind [and I consider that
all matter including the inorganic, functions within Mind] - can
develop a new habit that incorporates
Edwina,
I agree, that in inanimate world there is chance, due to the Heisenberg incertainty and to incertainty as calculated by chaos theory. But I doubt, that this has to do with induction or abduction, or with final or example causation. I think, that final causation (or induction) requires a
Jerry, List:
As Peirce explains in various places, ampliative reasoning produces
conclusions that are not already contained in or implied by the premisses.
As such, it encompasses both abductive/retroductive reasoning and inductive
reasoning, but not deductive reasoning. That being the case,
List,
I have to ponder your posts, because up to now my idea has been, that in inanimate nature merely deduction/efficient causation occurs, in animate nature (organisms) also induction/final causation, and in neuro-nature (brain animals) also abduction/example causation. To suggest that a
ems.ca/wp/ }{ living the time
From: Jon Alan Schmidt
Sent: 13-Dec-20 18:47
To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Asymmetry of Logic and Time (was multiple-valued logic)
List:
I have been thinking about existential graphs again lately and wondering how
they might be em
Jon, List:
Some comments from the perspective of modern science are offered. While
technical language is remote from the languaging of CSP, there is a remote
possibility that it may be useful since the notion that atoms beget molecules
has not changed.
It is well known that abductive
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