[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-29 Thread Auke van Breemen
Title: Message Gary, Well, it seems we are going in different directions at the moment. - You are involved in studying semiosis along lines of sign types, while I am wondering how to understand the process by which a sign that offers itself and is capable of producing a logical

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-29 Thread Auke van Breemen
Title: Message Gary, You write: Sarbo/Farkas do refer to their proto-signs as "aspects of signs I suggested the use of 'aspects of signs' for the proto-sign article. Precisely in order to get clear that not the triadically determined sign types are meant. A matter that was troubling him

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-29 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, Thank you for providing the link to Sarbo's Proto-Signs piece. http://www.cs.ru.nl/research/reports/full/ICIS-R05031.pdf This will certainly be very helpful for those who are interested in examining Sarbo's 9-adic proto-semiotic I had betterphrased it thus: by the addition...sneaks

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-28 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, Another inter-paragraphical response, then we can both get back to work towards our deadlines :-) Auke van Breemen wrote: <>[GR] But the so-called Welby classification involves the consideration of the role of the interpretant in semeiotic moving theoretically somewhat far beyond the

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-27 Thread Auke van Breemen
Title: Message Gary R, Thanks for your reply. GR: As a supplement to the URL Joe supplied for "knowledge management" I'd like to add several others, all from Wikipedia. First, I would like to suggest that ICCS and CGs are more closely associated with "knowledge representation" than with

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-27 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke van Breemen wrote: Message By now we have: knowledge management knowledge reperesentation Gary, could you give me a clue about how conceptualization fits in? I mean with this the way in which we individually or collaboratively make our vague and indistinct ideas clear.

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-27 Thread Auke van Breemen
Gary, Thanks for your extensive answer. It is more then I asked for but the surplus does address an important issue. I think it comes down to whether it is correct to hold, as you do, that the 9 aspects can not be useful for anything except for establishing the 10 types of signs. As in: GR: My

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-27 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, Thank you for your good and thoughtful response. At the moment I've so many deadlines approaching that I won't be able to add more than a few inter-paragraphical comments. But first allow to apologize for not acknowledging your co-authorship of "Natural Grammar.". The copy that Sarbo

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Joe, Ben, List, I agree with Joe that Ben should be at the ICCS workshop! Finding your discussion of considerable interest and thinking that Aldo de Moor might as well, I wrote the following: to him (I'd forwarded Aldo most of that earlier exchange, not reproduced below). Hi, Aldo, FYI,

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Auke van Breemen
Joe, list, JR wrote: I googled the term knowledge management and immediately found a very informative website, very intelligently structured as an answer to the question of what knowledge management is. Here is the URL: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/knowledge+management Very

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Auke, Thank you for your interesting comments and for the quite pertinent Peirce quotation reminding us "that the essential function of a sign is to render inefficient relations efficient." There seems to me to be a great power in that notion both generally in semeiotic, but also and in

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Jim Piat
Dear Gary, Auke -- Which suggests to me the related notion that the consequences of actions involving objects aresometimes more efficiently determined by thinking them through with signs. Signs are tools for forcasting the outcomes of events -- affording all those who have them a great

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Joseph Ransdell
of reform as well as technological enablement. Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: Gary Richmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: Aldo de Moor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Steven Ericsson Zenith
nablement. Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: "Gary Richmond" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Peirce Discussion Forum" peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: "Aldo de Moor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:15 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Str

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-26 Thread Gary Richmond
Steven Ericsson Zenith wrote: BTW: A "tool interoperability" workshop is not something that I would expect anyone here to find interesting - even if the tools do deal with "conceptual structures" - which means, in this case, schemas and their instances. Steven, I'm giving the keynote

[peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop

2006-03-25 Thread Joseph Ransdell
@lyris.ttu.edu Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Conceptual Structures Tool Interoperability Workshop Joe, I don't know how Gary will respond, but I googled around a bit and I think that the main thing to keep in mind is that the knowledge involved is not at all