From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Chossudovsky)
Subject: GLOBAL FAMINE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M Chossudovsky)
Subject: GLOBAL FAMINE
50TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FAO
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,
16 OCTOBER 1995
KINDLY POST AND FORWARD THE FOLLOWING TEXT
THE CAUSES OF GLOBAL FAMINE
by Michel
On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, bill mitchell wrote:
well we are not necessarily discussing market socialism. i was responding to
Louis (who has now taken to writing scripts for a play - should be a
blockbuster i reckon, central character is well formed and pretty darn
interesting!). he was against
I'll try again, this time with some more notice. Anyone want to come on my
radio show this Thurs eve talk about Lucas? And the "Nobel" in the Dismal
Science in general?
Doug
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On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, Mason Clark wrote:
It's not important who said this, but would someone please define
SOCIALISM ? And explain how it automatically creates Utopia?
Who will be in charge? Votes by all the people? An intellectual
elite? HAL, the computer? Will it get information from
It's not important who said this, but would someone please define
SOCIALISM ? And explain how it automatically creates Utopia?
Who will be in charge? Votes by all the people? An intellectual
elite? HAL, the computer? Will it get information from the market?
Will it cut off my supply of soft
At 9:19 PM 10/15/95, bill mitchell wrote:
i also have
brought out one visitor this year, and plan a few more early next year. all
left thinking people. all getting the chance to visit civilisation and also
giving my dept. the chance to see some other people.
Visit civilization? You wouldn't be
Comrades - I'm going to be interviewing Nell Minow of Lens Inc., one of the
leading "relationship investors" and "shareholder activists" around. I've
included the text from their web home page below.
Anything you'd like me to ask her about?
Doug
--
Doug Henwood
Left Business Observer
250 W 85
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
Comrades - I'm going to be interviewing Nell Minow of Lens Inc., one of the
leading "relationship investors" and "shareholder activists" around. I've
included the text from their web home page below.
Anything you'd like me to ask her about?
Doug
Here in Mexico you can have two main kinds of economics in undergrad. If
you are majoring in Economics, then you have one type of econ courses
that begin with a term using Samuelson or Fischer/Dornbusch or something
similar. Then you get on twwo streams: micro wwith Varian (intermediate
The former Yugoslavia is moderately endowed with coal
and obviously uses it, although not the high sulfur type used
in Hungary, the former GDR, the Czechoslovakia, and Poland.
NOX emissions are a direct function of rates vehicular
usage as modified by pollution control devices. I do
Paul writes:
I would have said that it is because interest bearing capital
is not a commodity, but a social relation, and that thus
analysis based on supply and demand misses the point.
Paul might have said this, but Marx certainly didn't, as any reading
of Capital, Volume III, Ch.
Louis writes:
I tried to make some points about market socialism and what did I get in
reply?
--Gil Skillman wanted me to describe how my computer-based model would work.
I am not a professional economist or computer scientist, Cockshott is.
The discussion was about the problems of
To Paul Cockshott:
The only place where either Marx or Engels clearly
supports central planning in any detailed way is in Engels'
_Anti-Duhring_. On cooperatives and markets Marx is all
over the place, supporting coops in Volume III of _Capital_
and in his writings on the Paris Commune and
OK, I have had enough. It isn't the breathtaking ego of Louis Proyect
(can we make it a national monument and charge admission?), or his
unaccountable ability to draw the rest of you economists into these
periodic fits of angel-counting. It's the time it takes to wade through
all this crap
On Wed, 11 Oct 1995, Louis N Proyect wrote:
Save your energy, Mikey, we're going to have a great debate later on. By the
way, I have people like Paul Sweezy, Harry Magdoff, Ellen Meiksins Wood,
David Harvey, Leo Panitch, etc. in my corner (figuratively).
I believe an ideological fight
Two people replied to my query concerning writing an article on
rational expectations for Dollars Sense. I deleted your messages
by mistake. Could you send me a message again? Thanks. Marc Breslow.
This is in response to Louis Proyect's "farewell"
messages, although having gotten through my mail finally
I see that he has reappeared several times. Hopefully my
remarks will not drive anyone else off the net. So very
briefly:
1) I think a "global network of Mondragons" would be
a
Louis:
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY LISTEN UP. THE ONLY THING I ACCUSED NOAM CHOMSKY AND
MIKE ALBERT OF IS ATTACKING MARXISM. TO THIS CHARGE THEY HAVE ALREADY PLEAD
GUILTY. CASE CLOSED.
I AM SATISFIED AT THIS POINT, UNTIL I HEAR EVIDENCE TO THE
CONTRARY, THAT MARKET-SOCIALISM, WHICH ALBERT DOES
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Gilbert Skillman wrote:
What a copout. I wasn't asking Louis for computer algorithms, I was
asking about basic features of his alternative to market socialism.
The absurd implication of Louis's remarks is that it is sufficient to
argue in favor of some proposal A by
One problem that I can see in Paul Cockshott's references to Marx's
comments on communism is that Marx was not always clear as to whether he was
referring to communism as a fully developed organic system (one in which all
its presuppositions in their communist economic form were produced as
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:
Comrades - I'm going to be interviewing Nell Minow of Lens Inc., one of the
leading "relationship investors" and "shareholder activists" around. I've
included the text from their web home page below.
Anything you'd like me to ask her about?
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Blair Sandler wrote:
hit by car, typing 1-handed. pls excuse cryptic
Instead of "bringing in other corporate stakeholders" why not just
set up corporations whose directors are community orgs -- labor
unions, battered women's shelters, youth orgs, local enviro
Sorry,
That was a recent issue of dollars sense.
Ron
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Rhon Baiman wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Blair Sandler wrote:
hit by car, typing 1-handed. pls excuse cryptic
Instead of "bringing in other corporate stakeholders" why not just
set up
Gil
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Paul might have said this, but Marx certainly didn't, as any reading
of Capital, Volume III, Ch. 21 will make clear. For example: "The
form of lending results from capital's characteristic here of
emerging as a commodity, or in other words, it results from the fact
that money as capital
I agree with Mike that Marx's remarks on communism are
few and far between. I also agree that the transition to
communism necessarily goes through phases in which
commodity production is not yet abolished. I would reckon
that a phase combining state capitalism with elements
of co-operative
Gil
---
Paul might have said this, but Marx certainly didn't, as any reading
of Capital, Volume III, Ch. 21 will make clear. For example: "The
form of lending results from capital's characteristic here of
emerging as a commodity, or in other words, it results from the fact
that money as
Penlers, I am looking for a Conference in Britain or Europe in April or May
1996, either with a general economics focus or preferably one devoted to
labour market issues.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in anticipation.
Martin Watts
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Gil [PEN-L 853]has started a very interesting train of discus-
sion and I hope it continues.
Having chipped in an initial ten cents worth, I hope I'll be
excused for leveraging it with another five cents.
I'll stick with the view that the reason this discussion is
interesting is that a
On Mon, 16 Oct 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) I think a "global network of Mondragons" would be
a lot better than what we have now. But I do not think that
it would be sufficient to solve all environmental problems.
Some are global and must be dealt with at that level. This
may
Really, Ted, you should stick around. I post maybe 3 or 4 times a year
and it is usually something uncontroversial that I've written over on the
Marxism list and cross-post to this list, like a discussion of the
Unabomber or some such thing.
I'm just a lurker on this list and I wouldn't have
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