Dr. Seuss' latest

1998-02-05 Thread Thomas Kruse
The Latest Dr. Seuss Book (read to the rhythm of Green Eggs and Ham) Mr. Starr says-- I am Starr. Starr I are. I'm a brilliant barri-star. I'm here to ask, as you'll soon see, Did you grope Miss Lew-in-sky? Did you grope her in your house?

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1998-02-05 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BD3244.C76E9E20 charset="iso-8859-1" BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 4, 1998 =20 RELEASED TODAY: State unemployment

Re: BLS Daily Report

1998-02-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Richardson_D wrote: "The changes we have made have lowered the rate of growth [in the CPI] between about half a percentage point and eight tenths of a percentage point," BLS commissioner Katharine Abraham said at a press conference in New York on Jan. 29 ….Abraham said the BLS planned to

Re: computers and productivity

1998-02-05 Thread Barnet Wagman
"g-deficient" ? What's that? Yours trying to stay abreast of all the buzzwords, ___ Barnet Wagman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 773-645-8369 2118 W. Le Moyne St., 1st floor Chicago, IL 60622 __

clarfication

1998-02-05 Thread Barbara Laurence
Dear Pen-lers, the message sent out on "global economy, Asian crisis, Greider... was actually from Jim O'Connor. I was only the messenger. Jim does not use the computer himself. So when he has something to say he gives it to me to pass along. Barbara Laurence

Today's free market -- lobster salad socialism?

1998-02-05 Thread Sid Shniad
The Los Angeles Times Sunday, December 28, 1997 THE BAILOUT BUBBLE The American public has been cleaning up the financial messes of the investor class--from Lockheed to South Korea--since the '70s. Will 1998 be the year they refuse to pay?

The MAI and municipalities

1998-02-05 Thread Sid Shniad
There's an excellent, highly readable analysis of the MAI and its potential impact on municipalities available on the WWW. Written by international trade law expert Barry Appleton, it explains in clear language the extensive threat that this pending international agreement poses to

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Doug, Actually, when I was first asked, one of the things that I mentioned is something that Michael Perelman also mentioned, namely highlighting how fragile a system can be that does not look fragile at all on the surface, the famous "butterfly effect" or "sensitive dependence on

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Doug, Just for the record, I have no great feeling or love for the Santa Fe Institute itself. It is not going to question the Establishment too much, at least partly because it has gotten funding from such places as the Ford Foundation. It is the ideas coming out of it that I find

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: Actually, when I was first asked, one of the things that I mentioned is something that Michael Perelman also mentioned, namely highlighting how fragile a system can be that does not look fragile at all on the surface, the famous "butterfly effect" or

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Michael Perelman
Doug Henwood wrote: A paragraph of English prose, not to mention an acquaintance with economic history, can make this point just fine. My question was what all the fancy math adds to the mix. Poor Doug just does not get it. He is not an economist, so he might not understand the subculture.

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Doug, As a sophisticated analyst of financial market shenanigans and gallivants, you are not at all surprised by such remarks. Others are less accepting. More generally, this is turning into game playing. You say, "give me an English prose sentence that explains the math." So I

Re: Economic prose

1998-02-05 Thread Fellows, Jeffrey
Michael Perelman wrote: Marshall once said -- I think Paul Davidson might have mentioned this on the list before -- that once you have used your math to clear up your ideas, you should throw away the math and communicate in words. He was right. I agree with this statement. However, after

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Tom Walker
Michael Perelman wrote, My comment and Barkeley's was intended to show how you can use chaos theory to talk to economists. They do not understand prose. I have been told on many occasions that an assertion about the economy is illegitamate unless I have a model to back it up. On the other

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: Another wiggle, close but not the same, is that a system can be behaving very regularly and then quite suddenly start behaving very erratically ("chaotically"), with different and smaller changes than the first case. I don't like this use of the word "system,"

RE: Talkin' 'bout _speech_, period!-3

1998-02-05 Thread valis
Quoth Max, hanging beetlebrowed over the congregation: I submit to you that your Idaho march will be led by white, Christian, God-fearing men. Does not compute, Max. I was not referring to that advocacy at all, and can't quite make sense of your comment. Is it too whimsical for an

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread JayHecht
In a message dated 98-02-05 13:56:57 EST, you write: like so much econometrics, with little power to clarify real human life? Oh no!!! I've been found out!! There goes my 401(k) money! J

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1998-02-05 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BD328A.4F0BDB10 charset="iso-8859-1" BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1998 State unemployment rates moved little during

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Gar W. Lipow
Doug Henwood wrote: Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: Another wiggle, close but not the same, is that a system can be behaving very regularly and then quite suddenly start behaving very erratically ("chaotically"), with different and smaller changes than the first case. I don't like this

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Robin Hahnel
Doug Henwood wrote: Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: Another wiggle, close but not the same, is that a system can be behaving very regularly and then quite suddenly start behaving very erratically ("chaotically"), with different and smaller changes than the first case. I don't like

the non-prose supplement

1998-02-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Gil Skillman wrote: Well, the paragraph of English prose can't really "make this point just fine", in the sense of really knowing what the point means, what it necessitates, and what it rules out. Prose is best suited for indicating possibilities and connections, perhaps allusively. It's much

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1998-02-05 Thread Richardson_D
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- =_NextPart_000_01BD328A.C67FB750 BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 03, 1998 RELEASED TODAY: In November 1997, there were 1,095 mass layoff actions

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Gil Skillman
Doug writes, in response to a post from Barkley concerning chaos theory, A paragraph of English prose, not to mention an acquaintance with economic history, can make this point just fine. My question was what all the fancy math adds to the mix. Well, the paragraph of English prose can't really

RE: Today's free market -- lobster salad socialism?

1998-02-05 Thread Max B. Sawicky
-- =_NextPart_000_01BD3255.4D04A180 -- Sent: Thursday, February 05, 1998 2:15 PM To: LABOR-L; Progressive Economists' Network Subject:Today's "free" market -- lobster salad socialism? The Los Angeles Times Sunday, December 28, 1997 THE BAILOUT

SF-A-K: ooops!

1998-02-05 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley
Dear Father Henwood, Ops! Forgive me for my sins. I meant to say "inverse floaters" not "invertible floaters." I am unaware of the latter existing, although invertible bloopers probably exist, :-). Barkley Rosser -- Rosser Jr, John Barkley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The racism of 18th century social science

1998-02-05 Thread Louis Proyect
The "4 stage" theory of history was widely accepted in 17th and 18th century Europe. I alluded to Lord Kames and William Robertson the other day, but these two are just the tip of the iceberg. For the whole story, I recommend Ronald L. Meek's "Social Science and the Ignoble Savage" (Cambidge,

Re: Rightwing scandal-mongering

1998-02-05 Thread James Devine
Max, did my message about hearing you on NPR get through to pen-l? in any event, congrats. Since I agree mostly (or have only minor quibbles) with what Max writes in the current thread, I want to pick up only a couple of points: Max writes The WH [White House] is constantly polling, so if they

Re: Santa Fe-Krugman-Arthur

1998-02-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote: Focusing purely on economics and a notch or two up mathematically, but probably still more accessible than anything else is my 1991 book, _From Catastrophe to Chaos: A General Theory of Economic Discontinuities_, Boston: Kluwer, not available in paperback. I am

(Fwd) Contra-Cocaine: Bad to Worse (fwd)

1998-02-05 Thread Sid Shniad
* THE CONSORTIUM * For Independent Journalism Web: http://www.delve.com/consort.html E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Volume 3, No. 4 (Issue 56) - February 16, 1998 - -

Re: clarification-individualism

1998-02-05 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
Date sent: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 17:54:28 -0800 (PST) Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: clarification-individualism ricardo: No, that would be a contradiction in terms: if you act without regards

Re: Industrial Reserve Army

1998-02-05 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day linkers, Don't forget those exceptionally talented people who are socially productive "unemployed" but would be much less socially productive if they were employed. And I'm not kidding. I tried that argument about 30 years ago but didn't have much success with it. Hope it works better