[PEN-L:5099] Re: NATO Milosevich: Lovers' Quarrel?

1999-04-11 Thread Ken Hanly
Why did these people's heroes, the KLA, sign the peace agreement if it involved fake autonomy? Also, if there are only a handful of Serbians left in Kosovo does this mean there was some ethnic cleansing by the Albanians? There were a lot more Serbians there not that long ago. As we all know, the

[PEN-L:5101] Cossacks Vow To Help Serbs Defeat The West

1999-04-11 Thread Frank Durgin
Saturday April 10 8:08 PM ET Cossacks Vow To Help Serbs Defeat The West By Philippa Fletcher BELGRADE (Reuters) - Russian Cossacks joined groups of Serbs trying to shield Yugoslavia's bridges from NATO bombing Saturday and promised to help them defeat the West. ``Russian love and Russian

[PEN-L:5106] RE: Re: NATO Milosevich: Lovers' Quarrel?

1999-04-11 Thread Max Sawicky
The post could be wrong, as I allowed in my brief note, but I don't think it is drivel. Why did these people's heroes, the KLA, sign the peace agreement if it involved fake autonomy? Pragmatism. It gave them more than they thought they could get otherwise. Unlike we removed laptop partisans,

[PEN-L:5112] Re: RE: Re: NATO Milosevich: Lovers' Quarrel?

1999-04-11 Thread Ken Hanly
Max Sawicky wrote: The post could be wrong, as I allowed in my brief note, but I don't think it is drivel. Why did these people's heroes, the KLA, sign the peace agreement if it involved fake autonomy? Pragmatism. It gave them more than they thought they could get otherwise. Unlike

[PEN-L:5113] Hedge Funds- Shorting the fundamental ans surviving the volaility

1999-04-11 Thread Henry C.K. Liu
Hedge Funds: Going short in a bull market and winning -- By Jamie LaReau, Bridge News Chicago--Mar 8 Only a handful of short-selling managers have survived the quadrupling of the US stock market over the last 9 years. But with

[PEN-L:5115] random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Phyllis Benis asked an interesting question. What if the United States had paid its dues to the United Nations? Wouldn't that have been quite a bit cheaper than war? Of course, we could blame all that on the Repugs and Jesse Helms, but Clinton never fought for that the way he he fought for the

[PEN-L:5116] Fw: random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread Frank Durgin
Michael Perelman wrote "I am very appreciative of all the intelligent analysis I am reading on this list, although I am a loss to see how anyone in their right mind could credit Clinton and company with some humanitarian concerns." I too am very appreciative,. Were it not for the the

[PEN-L:5119] Re: Re: random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread William S. Lear
Nathan attempts to redefine Michael's query: On Sunday, April 11, 1999 at 18:41:36 (-0400) Nathan Newman writes: -Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am very appreciative of all the intelligent analysis I am reading on this

[PEN-L:5121] Dollars and Sense....

1999-04-11 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Went perusing for some Econ. documents at the UW library this afternoon and picked up some material on Senate approval of NATO expansion, Turkey and the Kurds, and privatizing National Security regarding fissionable material from Russia. Sources will follow quotes: "Bob Smith (R-NH) called

[PEN-L:5126] Re: Re: Re: random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Wrong reasons: removing any existing or potential obstacles for capitalism all over the world. But capitalism civilizes, right? It's too simple to abstract global accumulation into a simple case of butchery. I myself am troubled by the fact that

[PEN-L:5127] TOP 10 INVESTMENT BANKS DOUBLE GLOBAL BUSINESS (fwd)

1999-04-11 Thread michael
Forwarded message: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:24:57 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Sid Shniad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TOP 10 INVESTMENT BANKS DOUBLE GLOBAL BUSINESS X-Keywords: X-UID: 1153 The Financial Times March 1, 1999

[PEN-L:5128] Re: Marcus Gee on the Bombing

1999-04-11 Thread S Pawlett
Ken Hanly wrote: Here is the sort of thing I was talking about from the Globe. Gee had one or two other critical articles but the last stuff I have seen by him is typical trash that fits well with the demonisation process involved as part of NATO psychological warfare. Who knows, maybe

[PEN-L:5130] Louis's Blacklisting Post

1999-04-11 Thread Stephen E Philion
Just wanted to send on a note of appreciation to Louis for taking the time to record this event. For those of us who would give anything to be in the Big Apple for such an event as this, but are at the moment some twenty hours away by air, such posts are invaluable. not to mention wonderful

[PEN-L:5125] Re: RE: Re: NATO Milosevich: Lovers' Quarrel?

1999-04-11 Thread Dennis R Redmond
On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Max Sawicky wrote: So until I hear a better explanation, the simple one of suppressing nationalism that might by example destabilize Europe, but forestalling massacres that diminish the political credibility of NATO and the EU (or U.S. imperialism, if you like) explains

[PEN-L:5124] Marcus Gee on the Bombing

1999-04-11 Thread Ken Hanly
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --D9F87FEA4F8333570E479C20 Here is the sort of thing I was talking about from the Globe. Gee had one or two other critical articles but the last stuff I have seen by him is typical trash that fits well with the demonisation process

[PEN-L:5123] Re: Re: random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Nathan wrote: Clinton could be pursuing humanitarian ends for the wrong reasons. Wrong ends, wrong means, wrong reasons. Wrong ends: the continuation and expansion of NATO/US spheres of influence (economic, political, and military). Wrong means: bombings; economic sanctions against the

[PEN-L:5122] Re: Canadian Poll

1999-04-11 Thread S Pawlett
CBC reports a poll of Canadians shows that 57% favor sending ground troops to Kosovo and 79% support the bombing. THe defence minister claims this reflects Canadian values. However, I think it also reflects that fact that the CBC has now overtaken and surpassed CNN in its role of promoting

[PEN-L:5120] AGAINST THE US SANCTIONS AND BOMBING WAR UPON IRAQ

1999-04-11 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
I think it important to connect the US/NATO bombings of Yugoslavia with the US sanctions and bombings against Iraq. In this way, leftists in America have a chance to build a movement against imperialism, without alienating either Serb-Americans or Muslim Americans. America is engaged in two

[PEN-L:5118] Re: RE: Re: NATO Milosevich: Lovers' Quarrel?

1999-04-11 Thread Jim Devine
Max writes: This is indeed Vietnam redux, though it is Milo who plays the U.S. role. Milosevic vs. the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo/a might indeed be likened to Vietnam's war in that there was a civil war going on. You could liken Milosevic to Diem or Ho, whichever you like, with the KLA as either

[PEN-L:5117] Re: random thoughts on the slaughter

1999-04-11 Thread Nathan Newman
-Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am very appreciative of all the intelligent analysis I am reading on this list, although I am a loss to see how anyone in their right mind could credit Clinton and company with some

[PEN-L:5114] Socialist Scholars Conferences sketches, #1, The HollywoodBlacklist Today

1999-04-11 Thread Louis Proyect
MADELINE LEE GILFORD gave a rambling, but utterly charming, account of trying to raise a family during the witch-hunt. As a radio actress, she had a knack for imitating children's voices, including a baby's cry that she performed on the spot to stormy applause from the Marxist audience. She was

[PEN-L:5111] Re: Albanians in Guantanamo, or, SurrealistImperialism

1999-04-11 Thread Charles Brown
U.S. imperialism includes a military base on Cuba and 10 of thousands of troops in Korea still. All of these years the U.S. has claimed that Cuba's militancy was evidence of "dictatorship" and all the while the U.S. has had a military base ON Cuba. The level of mendacity of the "story"

[PEN-L:5110] Re: strategy

1999-04-11 Thread Charles Brown
NATO stands for NORTH Atlantic Treaty Organization. Isn't Serbia somewhat to the SOUTH and east of the Atlantic ? Yugoslavia means Southern Slavia. Charles Brown Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/09/99 09:25PM Let me see if I understand this. S.M. is a brutal thug (true enough) with

[PEN-L:5109] Canadian Poll

1999-04-11 Thread Ken Hanly
CBC reports a poll of Canadians shows that 57% favor sending ground troops to Kosovo and 79% support the bombing. THe defence minister claims this reflects Canadian values. However, I think it also reflects that fact that the CBC has now overtaken and surpassed CNN in its role of promoting the

[PEN-L:5108] Canadian from Macedonia

1999-04-11 Thread ts99u-2.cc.umanitoba.ca [130.179.154.225]
This was sent to me from a friend who received it from a Canadian working for the World Bank in Macedonia. Paul Phillips Subject: Re: Canadian from Macedonia Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:07:33 -0500 This is a very interesting reading! Rob Gourley, former Winnipeger, is now with the World Bank

[PEN-L:5107] Re: Serbia and Kosovo/a

1999-04-11 Thread Jim Devine
1. People should remember that we don't know what's happening in Kosovo/a. We get reports from the US/NATO folks but they are clearly biased, self-justifying. Trusting Clinton and his ilk is like quoting Milosevic as a font of truth. Or we hear from refugees, who are notorious for exaggeration

[PEN-L:5105] Re: Cossacks Vow To Help Serbs Defeat The West

1999-04-11 Thread Ken Hanly
Wouldn't it be more to the point for Russia to send some fuel to Yugoslavia instead of suspending all shipments as they have done so far. The Russians are long on rhetoric and symbolism and very short on genuine military aid. The IMF has the trump cards it seems. Cheers, Ken Hanly P.S. I

[PEN-L:5103] 500 KLA recruits leave London

1999-04-11 Thread Frank Durgin
ISSUE 1416 Sunday 11 April 1999 KLA recruits leave

[PEN-L:5102] 80 SAS men in Kosovo to target

1999-04-11 Thread Frank Durgin
Electronic Telegraph ISSUE 1416 Sunday 11 April 1999 80 SAS men in Kosovo to target death