This seems like the right time to introduce my new book, Shoveling Fuel
For A Runaway Train: Errant Economists, Shameful Spenders, and a Plan to
Stop Them All. The "New Economy" is a red herring swimming up Shit
Creek, and posterity will despise us if we follow it far enough. I do
not oppose
My thesis was 425 pages and it goes for the same price. A bargain!
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From: Doug Henwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 8:00 PM
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Max Sawicky wrote:
Bastids. selling my
This is not restricted to economics. In the biological sciences, "science,"
has been redefined as meaning molecular biology (i.e., developing drugs and
other agents for pharmaceutical and agribusiness companies). Field
biologists and system's ecologists are not hired and those that remain are
One afternoon, a wealthy employer was riding in the back of his limousine
when he saw two men eating grass by the road side. He ordered his driver to
stop and he got out to investigate.
"Why are you eating grass?" he asked one man.
"We don't have any money for food," the poor man replied.
"Oh,
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Charles Brown wrote:
It is an a posteriori truth that we are correct about more things
than our critics are.
Why aren't there more of "us" then?
___
The ruling class murders and ruins the upholders of these truths, so most don't join
us except
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/00 07:18PM
Jim D. wrote: "who is it that determines who a "real authority" is? Is there
a World
Congress of Philosophers who makes this decision?"
=
Roger Coase floated the idea that there should be a few years back...very
scary.
_
CB: Whose that who
Lawyers are less centralized on a world level ( international law is still openly
"might makes right"). There is a lot of centralization on the national level with the
Supreme Courts and the like, but even there , money rules. There is some autonomy at
the trial court level, though again
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/00 11:17PM
Jim D. wrote: "who is it that determines who a "real authority" is? Is
there
a World
Congress of Philosophers who makes this decision?"
A very interesting question. Steve Shapin has explored this question with
respexct to early modern science in his
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/00 10:40PM
. . .
I am with Jim on this one. My entire roralties from
writing academic and
political articles amount to less than $100 in 20 years. I
would be happy if
someone read and used the stuff. I did make several
hardcover copies of my
dissertation (one for
Brian Czech wrote,
The "New Economy" is a red herring swimming up Shit
Creek, and posterity will despise us if we follow it far enough.
Brian attributes the rationale for unlimited economic growth to
neoclassical economics and its notion of substitution. It seems to me that
this fixation on
I take the liberty of supplying a "happy ending":
They all climbed into the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as
large as the limo. Once underway, one of the poor fellows says, "Sir, you
are too kind. Thank you for taking all of us with you." The businessman
replied, "No problem, the
Yes, he did. He talks about how scientists (natural philosophers, as they said then)
struggled with the idea that work with your hands, necessary to set up experiments,
was not respectable for gentlemen, but the testimony of rude mechanics was not
credible. --jks
In a message dated Fri, 4 Aug
In a message dated Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:51:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Charles Brown"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lawyers are less centralized on a world level ( international law is still openly
"might makes right").
In fact, but not officially. As a matter of law, the UN Charter is part of
Michael Perelman wrote:
Japan grew very fast in the postwar period because its previous economists
were mostly excluded because of their fascist past, leading to a void that
Marxist trained economists filled. Eventually, Japan started hiring mostly
orthodox economists and their economy slowed
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In a message dated Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:51:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Charles Brown"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Lawyers are less centralized on a world level ( international law is still openly
"might makes right").
In fact, but not officially. As a
Justin wrote:
When our critics are right about something, we should revise our
views. Unlike Yoshie, I don't think we should just listen to
formulate better replies to their errors, but also to see if we can
learn something, to correct our own errors. It is not an a priori
truth that "we"
Yoshie wrote:
When I went to college, in contrast, teachers in economics spent much time
criticizing Keynesians from one neoclassical point of view or
another. They said Keynesians couldn't come up with a viable solution to
stagflation, which destroyed the authority of Keynes.
hi, Yoshie.
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
_If_ our critics are indeed right about something, yes, we should
revise our views; if not, no. Let's use Hayek as an example, since
we had threads on him recently. As our disagreements over Hayek have
shown, it is _not_ that Marxist critics of Hayek think that
Carroll, you will persist in misunderstanding. There are errors and errors. I think
that many people are wrong about many things--you, often, Charles, often, Yoshie,
frequently. Among us, that just indicates disagreement. i think Hayek was wrong about
private property, but I don't think he was
I have just opened up Sen's book, Development as Freedom. He proposes one
type of freedom, where people are given the opportunity through education, a
good environment . Milton Friedman proposes another type of freedom.
I disagree with Friedman, but I don't think that he makes an error.
I have just opened up Sen's book, Development as Freedom. He proposes one
type of freedom, where people are given the opportunity through education, a
good environment . Milton Friedman proposes another type of freedom.
I disagree with Friedman, but I don't think that he makes an error.
At 09:55 AM 8/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
I have just opened up Sen's book, Development as Freedom. He proposes one
type of freedom, where people are given the opportunity through education,
a good environment . Milton Friedman proposes another type of freedom.
this seems to correspond to the
They said crook, because of his unscrupulous methods. Robert Leeson writes
about this.
Max Sawicky wrote:
I have just opened up Sen's book, Development as Freedom. He proposes one
type of freedom, where people are given the opportunity through education, a
good environment . Milton
Carroll, you will persist in misunderstanding. There are errors and
errors. I think that many people are wrong about many things--you,
often, Charles, often, Yoshie, frequently. Among us, that just
indicates disagreement. i think Hayek was wrong about private
property, but I don't think he
At 10:28 AM 8/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
They said crook, because of his unscrupulous methods. Robert Leeson writes
about this.
hey, pen-l wants to hear the dirt!
(I know that the MF always uses biased econometric techniques, but is there
more?)
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since we haven't heard from Brad deLong on pen-l in a long time, here's a
snippet from his web-site
(http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/Econ_Articles/Reviews/krugman_accidental.h
tml):
Critics of Paul Krugman call him acerbic and boastful, unfair on the
attack and unwilling to make
Hey, if biased econometric techniques resulted in name calling, there would be
a long list of names. Dale Jorgenson comes to mind.
Jim Devine wrote:
At 10:28 AM 8/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
They said crook, because of his unscrupulous methods. Robert Leeson writes
about this.
hey, pen-l
Well, that tells us about both of them. Pathetic.
Gene Coyle
Jim Devine wrote:
Since we haven't heard from Brad deLong on pen-l in a long time, here's a
snippet from his web-site
(http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/Econ_Articles/Reviews/krugman_accidental.h
tml):
Critics of Paul Krugman
Is Brad deep undercover working for the Gore campaign on one of those
thick-slick policy tomes that float in DC bookstores between now and Jan.?
Since we haven't heard from Brad deLong on pen-l in a long time, here's a
snippet from his web-site
Critics of Paul Krugman call him acerbic and boastful, unfair on the
attack and unwilling to make concessions on thedefense, certain that he is
correct, and always sure that thosewho disagree are mendacious or foolish
(or both). And I cannot deny that these criticisms are accurate. But all
At 11:43 AM 8/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
Is Brad deep undercover working for the Gore campaign on one of those
thick-slick policy tomes that float in DC bookstores between now and Jan.?
what do you think of Krugman as the CEA chair under President Gore, with
Brad on board?
BTW, Max, last time I
I doubt it. At this stage the campaigns are not
into policy-think. They're too busy looking for
rocks to throw at each other. Whoever wins will
start soliciting policy books from aspiring
office-seekers.
mbs
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At 04:21 PM 8/4/00 -0400, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/04/00 01:43PM
(I know that the MF always uses biased econometric techniques, but is there
more?)
*
CB: "the MF"... Ghetto Jim D. double entendre ?
I've been using that double
I took my introductory grad course from Jorgenson. He prided himself on
writing down equations then erasing them before slow writers like myself
could copy down anything. He was the most smug teacher I ever
encountered.
Oh, speaking of error, how much did Feldstein's famous social security
CB: Probably the reason I noticed it is that I AM ghetto. I speak
middle-class for non-ghettoers. I'm bi-social.
this reminds me very little of the time that radio personality Michael
Feldman was interviewing NPR news-reader Scott Simon, who admitted to
liking both the Chicago White Sox and
Brad is not altogether wrong. Both are clever, get access to the media, try to be
provocative without being radical.
Eugene Coyle wrote:
Well, that tells us about both of them. Pathetic.
Gene Coyle
Jim Devine wrote:
Since we haven't heard from Brad deLong on pen-l in a long time,
I cannot find the reference right now. I wrote to Leeson asking for another
copy. I recall that it had to do with his willingness to do anything to "win,"
regardless of how he stretched the truth.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel.
Brad was comparing Krugman and Keynes. I was agreeing with him about the
similarities.
At 02:10 PM 8/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
Brad is not altogether wrong. Both are clever, get access to the media,
try to be
provocative without being radical.
both Krugman and Keynes -- or both Krugman
NPR reports that civil libertarians give the Philly cops high marks.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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Brad DeLong wrote:
Critics of Paul Krugman call him acerbic and boastful, unfair on the
attack and unwilling to make concessions on thedefense, certain that he is
correct, and always sure that thosewho disagree are mendacious or foolish
(or both). And I cannot deny that these criticisms are
RE
Paul Krugman has made original and very important
contributions to the new trade theory,...
Krugman merely contributed to the construction of
_mathematical models_ for what has long been known by non-mainstream
economists, historicans, industrial policy advocates, and policy-makers
in
The quoted someone from the ACLU.
On Fri, 4 Aug 100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NPR reports that civil libertarians give the Philly cops
high marks.
Which "civil libertarians" ?
--
Joseph Noonan
Houston, TX
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--
Michael Perelman
Economics
Barkely Rosser has written here before about Krugman's habit of taking
other people's ideas without attribution.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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