At 26/06/01 16:03 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:
CB: So, will socialism be an accident and freak of nature ? What was the
natural course of history , had the freak accident not occurred causing
capitalism ?
Yes there is something freakish about it. It is a successful social system
at a
Sir David Spedding
MI6 chief behind post-cold war change of role
Richard Norton-Taylor
Guardian
Thursday June 14, 2001
Sir David Spedding, who has died of lung cancer aged 58, was
chief of the secret intelligence service, or MI6 as it is commonly
known, overseeing a shift in priorities after
McLanguage: Hey, it could happenTM
By Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles
The Independent, 27 June 2001
You've heard of Chicken McNuggets and the Golden Arches.
They've long been trademarks identifying the McDonald's
Corporation, purveyor of cheap hamburgers to most of the
planet.
How about
Greens fight greens in Wales's war of the wind farms
By Severin Carrell
The Independent, 24 June 2001
The wind that cuts across Denbigh Moor, a stretch of wild and
desolate Welsh moorland a few miles north-east of Snowdonia,
seems to be a permanent feature of the landscape.
David
Blair rattled by old Labour ghosts
by Ian Bell
businessam, Jun 27, 2001
Beer and sandwiches will not be much in evidence at Downing Street today, it
is safe to
assume.
Trade union leaders do not take kindly to the old stereotypes and Tony Blair
is a politician happy to
pose with a pint but more
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A review of David Leigh, The Wilson Plot: The Intelligence Services and the
Discrediting of a Prime Minister 1945-1976, London: Heinemann, 1988
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In an apparently sharp contrast to days when government policy was to deny
even the existence of
Seth Sandronsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Can anybody direct me to cites and sources concerning the nominal
and/or real wages of South Korean steelworkers versus U.S. steelworkers,
and
the most recent global rankings for steel exports to the U.S.?
Check the US Bureau of Labor Statistics web site
Hey Mark, Paul Krugman writes in today's NY Times:
The natural gas story may be similar. Last year El Paso Natural Gas,
which controls one of the crucial pipelines serving California,
leased a big chunk of that pipeline's capacity to its own marketing
subsidiary. That subsidiary has been
G'day Lou,
This is an excellent publication, although I sharply disagree with
their
support of UN troops in East Timor and the Mideast. Leftwing
endorsement of
the UN is just another unfortunate legacy of the New Deal alliance
between
socialists and the liberal bourgeoisie.
I can come at
*What I can't come at* is damning the west for going in to prevent actual
slaughter from turning into almost inevitable genocide, no matter how much
the
west helped to produce the constituent circumstances. Sure, the west now
controls ET, no doubt does so with a single eye on its own ultimate
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All very convincing to me, Lou. But not of much interest to an East Timorese
woman dumbly (or hysterically - different strokes and all that) contemplating
her decapitated baby, her butchered husband and her own imminent rape and
murder. That's what we're talking about here, and on a biggish
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From: Rob Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
G'day Lou,
This is an excellent publication, although I sharply disagree with
their
support of UN troops in East Timor and the Mideast.
-*What I can't come at* is damning the west for going in to prevent actual
-slaughter from
Rob Schaap:
All very convincing to me, Lou. But not of much interest to an East Timorese
woman dumbly (or hysterically - different strokes and all that) contemplating
her decapitated baby, her butchered husband and her own imminent rape and
murder.
This kind of demagogic appeal applies to all
Nathan Newman:
Actually, what is amazing about the condemnation of support by the West for
the East Timorese is that for decades Chomsky and others have made the fact
that the West did nothing back in the 1970s to stop the initial invasion and
mass murder as proof that it had a double standard of
We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena
here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity. In my Natural
Instability book, I discussed the prices of passenger pigeons, which
stayed low while the bird became extinct.
Oil prices might be different if the
Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this little syllogism is
correct in its premises, and that one can reduce genocide to capitalism,
and capitalism to the USA. [I can't help but point out, however, if only in
passing, that the formulation has the effect of allowing one to elide all
Leo Casey wrote:
Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this little syllogism is
correct in its premises, and that one can reduce genocide to capitalism,
and capitalism to the USA. [I can't help but point out, however, if only in
passing, that the formulation has the effect of allowing
Michael Perelman wrote:
We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena
here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity.
No they're not, though Mark seemed to be treating them as such. The
gyrations in oil prices over the last 30 years, from $10 to $40 a
barrel,
By the *third century BC* the wonderful world of the Yang-shao
farmers and Lungshan peasants living peacefullly together and
practicing an extensive system of cultivation, i.e, shifting or slash
and burn agriculture, with only a rudimentary degree of social
stratification, had long been
Leo is relatively new here, so he probably does not know that we have been
over this a number of times. I don't think that there is much need to
repeat it again.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 11:25:09AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
Leo Casey wrote:
Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this
I am sure that my history is unreliable, by the lights of the history of
former Yugoslavia according to Milosevic and his apologists. No doubt my
history of Rwanda is also unreliable, by the lights of the history of Hutu
Power and their apologists. And so on. I have yet to learn of the
At 05:14 PM 6/26/01 -0400, you wrote:
Since Greenways grows the same crops conventionally and organically, I was
interested to hear John Diener, one of the farm's three partners, say he
knew for a fact that his organic crops were better, and not only because
they hadn't been doused with
Doug Henwood
What happened? Has Armageddon been rescheduled?
Nah, it's just a short-term fluctuation.
So Krugman counts as an energy expert for you?
Mark Jones
Doug Henwood wrote:
-
We have to be careful to distinguish short run from long run phenomena
here. Prices are not a good indication of scarcity.
No they're not, though Mark seemed to be treating them as such. The
gyrations in oil prices over the last 30 years, from $10 to
David Shemano wrote:
You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation experienced
since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you
compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities, you
would find that the price of oil has not changed much
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today. Among the 16
i have seen this kind of stuff posted to this list before, so
below is a forwarded message. if such info is not pertinent to
this list, please advice.
--ravi
content reproduced from:
does anyone know of an easily accessible study relating the dollar/Euro
exchange rate to relative interest rates?
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
who said the following?
It's not yet clear whether the Bush administration really is a government
of, by and for big corporations to an extent not seen since Warren G.
Harding was president, or whether it just looks that way. But the stories
keep accumulating. Intel's chief lobbyist says
who said the following?
It's not yet clear whether the Bush administration really is a
government of, by and for big corporations to an extent not seen
since Warren G. Harding was president, or whether it just looks
that way. But the stories keep accumulating. Intel's chief lobbyist
says
*please post*
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appear already to be giving
money away almost free--not unlike Japan's situation in recent years, as
that nation's central bank has kept interest rates near zero to try to
ignite the economy.
ellipsis
for more, see:
http://www.latimes.com/business/wallstcal/20010627/t52900.html
Jim Devine
At 02:53 PM 6/27/01 -0400, you wrote:
who said the following?
It's not yet clear whether the Bush administration really is a
government of, by and for big corporations to an extent not seen since
Warren G. Harding was president, or whether it just looks that way. But
the stories keep
Re: Humanitarian Intervention
http://www.dukeupress.edu/
Point
Powerless by Design: The Age of the International Community
Michel Feher
184 pages (October 2000)
In Powerless by Design Michel Feher addresses Western officials' responses
to post-Cold War conflicts and analyzes the
Where is Brad on this?
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Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:50 PM
To: Robert Naiman
Subject: [PEN-L:14099] CEPR: The Scorecard on Globalization 1980-2000:
20 Years of Diminished Progress
*please post*
--
new economy
In Powerless by Design Michel Feher addresses Western officials' responses
to post-Cold War conflicts and analyzes the reactions of the Left to their
governments' positions. Sometime in the early 1990s, Feher argues, U.S. and
European leaders began portraying themselves as the representatives of
I have come to the conclusion that China's hydraulic lock-in and
long term patter of development cannot be fully grasped without a
clear appreciation of the ecological dynamic of the Yellow River.
This, the most unsubordinate, intractable, turbulent river of the
world, has long driven a hard
Doug Henwood wrote:
---
Why compare the price oil to other commodities? There's probably a
high degree of correlation among commodity prices, based on the stage
of the business cycle and inflationary expectations. Let's be
Keynesian in spirit and use the wage unit as our
Robert Naiman wrote:
NEW STUDY CASTS DOUBT ON BENEFITS OF GLOBALIZATION
No. Stop this, please. It's not globalization, whatever that is,
it's the intensification of capitalist competition and the
intensification of imperial discipline in a world in which there's no
alternative to the massive
Mark Jones wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation
experienced
since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you
compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities,
I didn't write that. David
Maybe we should stop using the expression globalization when the
conservative stop using the term, free markets. Doug is correct
that globalization is a long process, which has increased over
the years, despite setbacks, such as during the depression.
The term, however, resonates. I think that
Michael Perelman asked:
Nurses are highly trained and in very short supply. Why is it
then that nurses are having such a difficult time in the labor
market, especially with regard to working conditions. The recent
Supreme Court decision will undoubtedly make things worse, but my
question
You can't tame rivers, but you can take care of the land on the hillsides
to reduce siltation.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that China's hydraulic lock-in and
long term patter of development cannot be fully grasped without a
clear appreciation of the ecological
How do you take care of the Gobi Desert?
tim
--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You can't tame rivers, but you can take care of the
land on the hillsides
to reduce siltation.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that China's
hydraulic lock-in and
long
Reforestation can actually reduce the size of deserts over time.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 02:37:47PM -0700, Tim Bousquet wrote:
How do you take care of the Gobi Desert?
tim
--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
You can't tame rivers, but you can take care of the
land on the
Couple your remarks with Tim's description of Chico's Enloe hospital.
I think that the nurse situation happens to be important because it seems
to refute the common understanding of how labor markets work. Of course,
the new trend of redefining nurses as supervisors will make their
situation
Yes, but doesn't the high-silt content of the river
date back several thousand years at least? Isn't it
pretty much the prehistoric, natural state of the
river?
--- Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reforestation can actually reduce the size of
deserts over time.
On Wed, Jun 27,
You may know about this than I do, but the current would bring the silt
down to the sea over time. If it just remained at the bottom of the
river, there would be no problem.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 03:03:42PM -0700, Tim Bousquet wrote:
Yes, but doesn't the high-silt content of the river
date
At 04:45 PM 6/27/01 -0400, you wrote:
Robert Naiman wrote:
NEW STUDY CASTS DOUBT ON BENEFITS OF GLOBALIZATION
No. Stop this, please. It's not globalization, whatever that is, it's
the intensification of capitalist competition and the intensification of
imperial discipline in a world in which
Anyone get the new book by Justin Rosenberg from Verso yet?
http://www.versobooks.com/
http://www.versobooks.com/books/nopqrs/rosenberg_follies.shtml
In these pages Justin Rosenberg develops an erudite and lively critique
of contemporary globalisation theory. He argues that fashionable
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To: malele dodia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:50 PM
Subject: [marxist] Disciplining Democracy Africa/Zambia
At 14:05 27-6-01 +0200, malele dodia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For your interest since this
Mark Jones wrote:
You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a
Chinese emperor or a keynesian economist, sitting in a high place divorced
from reality and making decisions about money supply without any material
motivation or reason? Why did the Fed
Ricardo wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that China's hydraulic lock-in and
long term patter of development cannot be fully grasped without a
clear appreciation of the ecological dynamic of the Yellow River.
I'm finding these posts intensely interesting but what's frustrating is
David Shemano wrote:
Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is
a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. Why
would the good old USA be any different? Once Nixon severed the link to
gold in 1971, the money supply was at the complete
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
You've already answered your question yourself. What's missing is
capitalists compelled to M-C-M'.
This explains nothing in history. It's simply metaphysics.
Mark Jones
David writes:
Mark Jones wrote:
You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a
Chinese emperor or a keynesian economist, sitting in a high place divorced
from reality and making decisions about money supply without any material
motivation or reason?
Now that I think about it, siltation is a big problem
even here in CA. All these huge dams we've built don't
last forever; they have projected lifetimes that
depend on the rate of siltation. Shasta Dam, for
example, was given a projected lifetime of 100 years
when it opened in 1939-- after which
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
You've already answered your question yourself. What's missing is
capitalists compelled to M-C-M'.
This explains nothing in history. It's simply metaphysics.
Mark Jones
Unless you explain the process that creates capitalists driven to M-C-M', sure.
Yoshie
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At 07:28 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, Doug not-Fraser wrote:
it's much more sensible to give ourselves over the growth in the gold supply.
I agree. If we had the gold standard, that would guarantee deflation, so
that we'd have waves of
At 07:38 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is
a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond.
That doesn't explain the timing of the decision.
it also doesn't recognize that it's not _the government_
I was going to say Trent Lott. But I guess I'm too conspiratorial. But Lott
almost certainly was behind the FERC chair Hebert's revelation about Enron/Ken
Lay's modest proposal to trade support for policy.
Gene Coyle
Jim Devine wrote:
who said the following?
It's not yet clear whether
David Shemano wrote:
Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the
currency is
a favorite hobby for governments going back to the Romans and
beyond. Why
would the good old USA be any different? Once Nixon severed the
link to
gold in 1971, the money supply was at
Mark Jones and Yoshie Furuhashi ask why Nixon severed the link to gold in
1971. See the attached link entitled Why Nixon Left Gold:
http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/01-08-99.html. I make no claim to
being an expert in the specifics. I am certainly not going to psychoanalyze
Richard
David Shemano sometimes says interesting and provocative things. But I'm
sticking with William Jennings Bryan.
Gene Coyle
David Shemano wrote:
Mark Jones wrote:
You may have captured the MO but what about the motive? Is the Fed like a
Chinese emperor or a keynesian
Yes siltation is a big problem. Generally the lifetime of dams is shorter
than initially predicted.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 04:38:35PM -0700, Tim Bousquet wrote:
Now that I think about it, siltation is a big problem
even here in CA. All these huge dams we've built don't
last forever; they
Carrol Cox wrote:
Even from a long range perspective, eliminating the difference between
city and country means industrializing (citifying) the country as well
as 'ruralizing' the city.
Sorta sounds like the American suburb, which is hardly a
prefiguration of utopia in any social or ecological
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Unless you explain the process that creates capitalists driven to
M-C-M', sure.
I gave my version, at length: You have to look at the specifics of local
history and you have to synthesize that with a world system dimension.
That's concretely how for example to
American suburbia is too low-density to be ecologically sound.
Cities need multi-family dwellings. Besides, it doesn't have
sidewalks. Without cafes, sidewalks, people-watching, you don't
get a feeling of urbanity.
Flowers, vegetables, other perishables are best grown close to
--- Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well then, move to Seattle :-)
dreariest place on earth...
tim
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Sorta sounds like the American suburb, which is hardly a
prefiguration of utopia in any social or ecological sense. Is there
some compelling reason, other than the fact that Marx Engels urged
it, to do this?
Doug
Sorta sounds like the American suburb? No, this is not what I am talking
about
Michael Perelman:
I don't understand how it would lead to salinization, but the E. Asian ag.
system was remarkably sustainable. Silting seems to be more related to
removing the forest cover.
What Happens when you Irrigate?
Irrigation inevitably leads to the salinization of soils and
Jim Devine writes:
-
I agree. If we had the gold standard, that would guarantee deflation, so
that we'd have waves of bankruptcy and a banking crisis. This would
encourage the one-sided class struggle to become two-sided. Of course, our
friends in South Africa and Russia
Why does any government inflate the money supply? Debasing the currency is a favorite
hobby for governments going back to the Romans and beyond. Why would the good old USA
be any different? Once Nixon severed the link to gold in 1971, the money supply was
at the complete mercy of the
Los Angeles Times, December 26, 1996, Thursday, Home Edition
CENTRAL ASIA: The Long Road to Democracy. Last of two parts
SHRINKING OF ARAL SEA LEAVES CENTRAL ASIANS SUFFERING; ECOLOGY: SOVIETS'
DIVERSION OF WATER FOR IRRIGATION HAS BEQUEATHED A HOST OF ECONOMIC AND
HEALTH PROBLEMS.
Carrol says:
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
Farming without industrial inputs equipment tends to be very
labor-intensive, often involving back-breaking labor for tilling,
sowing, weeding, watering, harvesting.
Speaking of what will be the nature of post-revolutionary agriculture
seems on the
* Strawberry plants are four or five inches tall and grow from
beds eight to twelve inches high. One must bend at the waist to pick
the fruit, which explains why the job is so difficult. Bending over
that way for an hour can cause a stiff back; doing so for ten to
twelve hours a day,
Farmers like workers to bend over. It makes it easy to spot who is
relaxing. If strawberries were grown in raised beds, like you see in some
greenhouses, little bending would be required. But mechanization would
be difficult.
Strawberries are very highly treated with pesticides and the fields
Lou says:
* Strawberry plants are four or five inches tall and grow from
beds eight to twelve inches high. One must bend at the waist to pick
the fruit, which explains why the job is so difficult. Bending over
that way for an hour can cause a stiff back; doing so for ten to
twelve hours
David says:
Jim Devine writes:
-
I agree. If we had the gold standard, that would guarantee deflation, so
that we'd have waves of bankruptcy and a banking crisis. This would
encourage the one-sided class struggle to become two-sided. Of course, our
friends in South Africa and
At 01:03 AM 06/28/2001 +0100, you wrote:
The gold standard is a mechanism for pumping value out of colonies or
subordinated states.
This sort of makes sense to me if the gold is produced by colonies or
subordinated states and the spoils from the super-exploitation are sent to
the center. But
Why does a gold standard guarantee deflation? What exactly do you mean by
that?
deflation = falling prices (increasing purchasing power of money). The gold
standard limits the global supply of money because the supply of gold is
very inelastic, while new discoveries are rare. If countries
Michael says:
Farmers like workers to bend over. It makes it easy to spot who is
relaxing. If strawberries were grown in raised beds, like you see in some
greenhouses, little bending would be required.
That makes sense. An example of how capitalist class power throws
efficiency rationality
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At 10:27 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, you wrote:
But mechanization would be difficult.
Right, given the fragility of strawberries
you underestimate the power of bioscience: I can easily imagine
genetically-altered strawberries the size of basket balls with a thick
skin, so that they can be harvested
The farmers fought like hell to retain the short handled hoe in
California. They loved it because the workers had to stoop over to work.
As soon as they relaxed, they stood upright.
I have never seen anyone use such a tool except the Homng farmers who work
in my neighborhood. They must have
[While CA watches Oprah...]
[from the BBC]
Thursday, 28 June, 2001, 01:29 GMT 02:29 UK
Brazil energy march turns violent
By Tom Gibb in Sao Paulo
There have been street confrontations in the Brazilian capital,
Brasilia, during a march to protest against corruption and energy
rationing.
The
At 10:27 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, you wrote:
But mechanization would be difficult.
Right, given the fragility of strawberries
you underestimate the power of bioscience: I can easily imagine
genetically-altered strawberries the size of basket balls with a
thick skin, so that they can be harvested
At 10:27 PM 06/27/2001 -0400, you wrote:
But mechanization would be difficult.
Right, given the fragility of strawberries
you underestimate the power of bioscience: I can easily imagine
genetically-altered strawberries the size of basket balls with a
thick
skin, so that they can be
At 27/06/01 11:58 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
as expected, the US Fed cut the Fed. Funds rate by 1/4 point. But here's a
dimension ignored in most newspapers.
L.A. TIMES/Wednesday, June 27, 2001
By One Measure, Rates Are Near Zero
This may be a curiosity or it may be very revealing if properly
* Industrialization and the agricultural revolution
If the African continent as a whole has not yet embarked upon the
agricultural revolution, neither has it yet entered the industrial
age. Agricultural stagnation is not the consequence of forced
industrialization, as the World Bank
Jim Devine:
Seriously, how does the gold standard allow for the elasticity of credit
that capitalism needs?
Very easily, if you are an ascendant hegemon, like for example Britain at
the time the Bank of England first went on the gold standard, and hardly at
all if you are a hegemon struggling
Doug Henwood wrote:
Doug Henwood wrote:
You have to figure in the constant monetary inflation/deflation
experienced
since Nixon severed the dollar's link to gold. I'll bet that if you
compared the price of oil over the past thirty to other commodities,
I didn't write that.
Michael Perelman:
I don't understand how it would lead to salinization, but the E. Asian ag.
system was remarkably sustainable. Silting seems to be more related to
removing the forest cover.
What Happens when you Irrigate?
Irrigation inevitably leads to the salinization of soils and
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