Keep East Timor out of IMF/WB debt

2002-04-16 Thread Chris Burford
How to keep even one small country free of the chains of IMF debt?? Forwarded from Stop IMF email list, these are the campaigning efforts of the East Timor Action Network below. But is East Timor right to refuse loans? Cruel though the workings of a currency board might be, would i

Re: Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray
There's a bit of the TC approach in John Commons as well.. Ian - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: [PEN-L:25027] Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism > Transactions co

Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Transactions cost economics -- this will be brief after 6 hours of classes, 2 hours at the gym -- starts with Ronald Coase, who explains that firms arise to minimize the cost of negotiating via markets, say by writing a contract with specific requirements. Robertson refered to firms as islands of

EU demands for dismantling the CAP

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray
[you'll need to click on the article link to get to the other links which lay out the demands country by country] < http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,7369,685670,00.html > Secret documents reveal EU's tough stance on global trade The documents are at the foot of this article. To re

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim writes on Williamson: > I concluded that there was basic conflict between > capitalists and workers at the center of his theory. > Capitalists were striving to attain the collective > good for all that worked for the corporation, while > disgruntled workers were mere free riders, undermining

Re: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PEN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: [PEN-L:25023] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism > Michael writes: > > > You are absolutely correct. > > > > "Devine, James" wrote: > > >

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael writes: > You are absolutely correct. > > "Devine, James" wrote: > >> My impression is that Williamson studies non-market >> institutions in order to show that corporate hierarchies >> are a good thing. I don't know whether he studies market or non-market institutions but other than that

Re: Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
> Sabri, I clicked on 7 but I didn't give > them my credit card #. > > Gene Thanks, It is okay. When you came to Berkeley, you can buy me a beer or two, as our Vietnam vets say here. By the way, I was serious with my this request. The article I mentioned is unusual for MSNBC in the sense that it

Re: RE: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread michael perelman
You are absolutely correct. "Devine, James" wrote: > My impression is that Williamson studies non-market institutions in order to > show that corporate hierarchies are a good thing. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mai

Re: Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Eugene Coyle
Sabri, I clicked on 7 but I didn't give them my credit card #. Gene Sabri Oncu wrote: > Friends, > > There is a news piece at ntvmsnbc. It is here: > > http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/146569.asp > > The piece is in Turkish. That means, unless you know Turkish, you > will not understand what the he

Murdoch Launches New China Channel

2002-04-16 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Financial Express March 30, 2002 News Corp's Star TV Switches On New China Channel Beijing, March 29: The Asian satellite TV unit of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, Star TV, has begun transmitting a new channel made for China in the affluent southern province of Guangdong, a company official s

Re: New Welfare Study from EPI

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
> NEW DATA SHOW WELFARE FAILS TO HELP FAMILIES > MAKE SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS TO WORK Wouldn't a more accurate title say how welfare REFORM--you know, the new new welfare for the new new economy-- fails to help, and then there is the issue of so many jobs not providing a living wage. Anyway, the

Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
One reason why some developing countries are reported to offer high rates of return (in the popular press) is simply outside and inside manipulation of their equities markets. I've seen this time and again when the venture banks latch onto a flavor of the month market and hype it. In 1996 I kept g

RE: Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
Sabri writes:>There is an interesting book by Oliver Williamson that I bought a while ago but have not read yet. It is entitled something like "Institutions of Capitalism" or some such name. He is the founder of this "transaction costs economics" and will most likely receive a Noble [sic!] Prize i

RE: Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
Sabri Oncu writes: >On another note, what happens if there are more than one "democratically centralized" parties, each claiming to be the vanguard of the working and allied classes? Which one gets to lead the revolution?< the one that's correctly following Lenin. It should be obvious, comrade! J

RE: Re: The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
Romain writes:>... Exchange value of currencies does not belong to any Marxist theory, as Marx believed in a gold currency for ever.< It's more accurate to say that Marx _assumed_ that gold was the international currency, since he hadn't thought of a world dominated by a single hegemon that coul

Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
On another note, what happens if there are more than one "democratically centralized" parties, each claiming to be the vanguard of the working and allied classes? Which one gets to lead the revolution? Sabri P.S: I lost the count of such vanguard parties in Turkey. There are way too many.

Re: The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Romain Kroes
Not at all, Chris. Exchange value of currencies does not belong to any Marxist theory, as Marx believed in a gold currency for ever. Actually, exchange value of currencies depends on the sign of the balances of trade, with a reversion of the law when the currency of world system's metropolis has b

Request for help

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, There is a news piece at ntvmsnbc. It is here: http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/146569.asp The piece is in Turkish. That means, unless you know Turkish, you will not understand what the hell this piece is about. Believe me, it is a good article about Venzuela, USA and the coup. Among other

The exchange value of currencies

2002-04-16 Thread Chris Burford
The organic composition of capital is the measure of the exchange value of currencies. Is this a correct application of marxism? Chris Burford

Millions on Strike in Italy

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Millions on Strike in Italy Tue Apr 16, 6:39 PM ET By CANDICE HUGHES, Associated Press Writer ROME (AP) - Millions of Italians staged the biggest strike in decades Tuesday to protest the government's plans to make it easier to fire workers. Airports were almost deserted, few trains were running,

Re: Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Miyachi wrote: > Thank you for your reply > > As for decentralized responsibility, party cell duty is > regular report to central committee and maintain party's > program. If he has not ability to this duty, simply he must > give up, or choose to change his duty. Here no command exists. > Only m

Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
> CB: Is this corporate hierarchy a bureaucracy too ? Sure Charles. This one is bureaucracy at its worst. Do you have any doubts? If you do, I strongly recommend that you seek employment with, say, Goldman Sachs Asset Management, Barclays Global Investors, Merrill Lynch Investment Management, Put

BLS Daily Report

2002-04-16 Thread Richardson_D
RELEASED TODAY: The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) rose 0.6 percent in March, before seasonal adjustment, to a level of 178.8 (1982-84=100), the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. For the 12-month period ended in March, the CPI-U increased 1.5 percent. The Consumer Pr

dem. cent. & Venezuela

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
dem. cent. & Venezuela by Devine, James 16 April 2002 18:33 UTC Thread Index > > > [was: RE: [PEN-L:24983] Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)] I wrote: >>In leftist theory, "democratic centralism" refers to the organization of the revolutionary political party. The theory says that whe

RE: ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine

2002-04-16 Thread Max Sawicky
> [right-left] ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine > PRESS RELEASE - OPEN LETTER – > To Media - Politicians and to Friends > CDSM-IRELAND - SOLIDARITY WITH PEOPLE OF PALESTINE > > John Kelly – Committee to Defend Slobodan Milosevic – Ireland at this point I had

ICDSM-Ireland - Solidarity with people of Palestine

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Pugliese
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Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert) by bantam 16 April 2002 15:13 UTC > BTW, in practice, most "democratic centralist" organizations end up > not > being democratic. > The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central > committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers

dem. cent. & Venezuela

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L:24983] Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)] I wrote: >>In leftist theory, "democratic centralism" refers to the organization of the revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members of

Re: Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect
>One version of that can be estimated by looking at BEA's direct >investment data for the U.S. >- divide profits by the capital stock. When I've done it, I've been >surprised at how low returns are in some "developing" countries, and >how high they are

Query- Samuelson cite

2002-04-16 Thread Eugene Coyle
I'd appreciate any help. I'm traveling and not near a library. Paul Samuelson, conceding in the Cambridge Controversy the economics is not a science, said something like "micro is only a parable. But it is a good parable." Does anyone know the cite for that? I think it must have been 1973 or

Re: rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Doug Henwood
Diane Monaco wrote: >I am looking for information on the rate of return on capital in >developing countries and how it compares to the rate in developed >countries. Can anyone point me in the right direction? One version of that can be estimated by looking at BEA's direct investment data for

RE: Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Pugliese
From the Trotsky archive at MIA. >...n the chapter "Down With Substitutionism" in Party II of the book, Trotsky writes >in what could be a description of Stalinism : In the internal politics of the Party these methods lead, as we shall see below, to the Party organisation ‘substituting&’ it

rate of return on capital

2002-04-16 Thread Diane Monaco
I am looking for information on the rate of return on capital in developing countries and how it compares to the rate in developed countries. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance, Diane

RE: Re: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese
oOoPS! ;-) sINCE cHRIS bURFORD and lnp3.exe have requested it, I'll change my e-mailer from this web based webbox.com to the Opera/Eudora mailer. BTW, another Dr. Sidney...this one Sidney Gottlieb at UCLA shot up an elephant with LSD-25. Some people might say he shot me up too? Michae

Re: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect
>it will >continue to do so. The current regime has legitimacy, but this >legitimacy >does not come from paraded invented rituals for the cameras; >it comes from >the multitude's constituent power. And the multitude is also >waiting for >other alternatives, and other possibilities. > This i

PK speaks

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
April 16, 2002 Losing Latin America By PAUL KRUGMAN Many people, myself included, would agree that Hugo Chávez is not the president Venezuela needs. He happens, however, to be the president Venezuela elected - freely, fairly and constitutionally. That's why all the democratic nations of the Wes

RE: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
Ken writes:>Certainly one could expect support for Israel as a strategic ally but how is Israel loyal when it deliberately ignores US presidential demands to withdraw. Israeli actions make a planned attack on Iraq much more difficult--by alienating all of Iraq's neighbours and also threatens stabi

RE: Re: RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
Ken writes:>I fail to see your point. . Why not criticise the substance instead of the source-- as Jim does? Anyway there is lots of similar stuff from lefties emphasizing the importance of the Israel Lobby. James Petras for example but here is Herman ages ago(in the link below). Herman considers

democratic centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L:24984] Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)] Rob writes: >Democratic centralism leads to bureaucratic centralism and, ultimately, an apparat not unlike a ruling class, whose being (and material interests) is unlike that of its 'constituency' and whose consciousness comes to r

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised Hugo Chavez's Return and the

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese
Jon Beasley-Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Add to People Section To: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, aut-op- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AUT: The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (fwd) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:42:25 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Beasley-

FW: AUT: Re: "The Coup *Will* be Televised: Hugo Chavez's Downfall and the Venezuelan

2002-04-16 Thread michael pugliese
>--- Original Message --- >From: Jon Beasley-Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 4/16/02 12:25:12 AM > >Louis, I'm sorry that by some freak of internet you only received the last >two sentences of the first of two longish texts I sent out yesterday. >Thanks

Re: RE: RE: Fw: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Ken Hanly
I fail to see your point. . Why not criticise the substance instead of the source-- as Jim does? Anyway there is lots of similar stuff from lefties emphasizing the importance of the Israel Lobby. James Petras for example but here is Herman ages ago(in the link below). Herman considers the point J

New Welfare Study from EPI

2002-04-16 Thread Max Sawicky
NEW DATA SHOW WELFARE FAILS TO HELP FAMILIES MAKE SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS TO WORK FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Tuesday, April 16 2002 CONTACT: Nancy Coleman or Karen Conner, 202-775-8810 Report available online at http://www.epinet.org >From 1997 to 1999, while most of the nation experienced a surge

Re: Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread bantam
> BTW, in practice, most "democratic centralist" organizations end up > not > being democratic. > The rank and file end up being manipulated by the central > committee or its leader, i.e., end up being passive followers rather > than > active, democratic, participants. > > > > CB: Mos

Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
Bureaucracy (speculative rant alert) by Devine, James 15 April 2002 21:33 UTC In leftist theory, "democratic centralism" refers to the organization of the revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on memb

Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
Binary scheme of democracy and centralism by Sabri Oncu 16 April 2002 04:49 UTC They were the ones who possessed the centralized power. They are not gone because we, who worked under them, way below the corporate hierarchy, ^^^ CB: Is this corporate hierarchy a bureaucracy too ? ^

Binary scheme of democracy and centralism

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
Binary scheme of democracy and centralism by miychi 15 April 2002 21:34 UTC > 1.Binary scheme of democracy and centralism Charles: As Lenin was a dialectician, we can be sure that these opposites are to be treated in both their unity and opposition, as you do below. Basically it

Re: Re: Argentina, Australia and Canada

2002-04-16 Thread Louis Proyect
Grant Lee wrote: >Louis, > >I'm sorry you feel that way. I took your reference to Lenin meant that you >favoured the "national front" tactics of the early 1920s, which did involve >bourgeois nationalists (in dependent countries). This only confuses things further. Lenin advocated support for nati

Italian general strike

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Brown
As some 11 million Italian trade unionists go head-to-head with the rightist Berlusconi government in the first general strike that country has seen for 20 years, LabourStart is pleased to announce that we've launched a special page with full coverage of the strike, here: http://www.labourstart.o

Re: EG&G: another Carlyle Group holding cleaning up on terror

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
EG&G, a key Carlyle Group holding, has technology and products in biosensors from this acquisition. They then branded just about everything to do with the field of detection as 'Perkin-Elmer'. http://www.princetonappliedresearch.com/press_releases/030899.html Press Releases EG&G TO ACQUIRE PE

jobs for oxymorons

2002-04-16 Thread Ann Li
History/Programming: The International Spy Museum. Washington, D.C. The International Spy Museum is the first public museum in the United States solely dedicated to the tradecraft, history and contemporary role of espionage. The 60,000 square foot project located in Washington, DC expects to attr

Whores of war

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
I stole that title from the name of a website that led me to the latimes article. Anyone want to guess how many of these companies are at least partly owned by Carlyle Group (though some go back to its 'competitors') ? Better get a pencil and a notepad. One has to wonder how much of this spendin

Anti-coup and mass demonstration

2002-04-16 Thread miychi
On 2002.04.16 06:24 AM, "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In leftist theory, "democratic centralism" refers to the organization of the > revolutionary political party. The theory says that when a party's > membership decides on a policy (a line, a program) it is binding on members > of

Difference between corporations and party responsibility

2002-04-16 Thread miychi
On 2002.04.16 07:28 AM, "Ian Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Sabri Oncu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PEN-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:11 PM > Subject: [PEN-L:24950] Re: Binary scheme of democracy and centralism > > >> Miyac

Thu., 4/18: Peace Activism during the "War on Terrorism"

2002-04-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Critical Perspectives on Wars, Classes, & Empires Peace Activism during the "War on Terrorism" Speaker: Eric Swank Eric Swank -- a professor of sociology at Morehead State University and researcher who has published on media portrayals of peace movements and attitudes of Gulf War protesters -

EG&G: another Carlyle Group holding cleaning up on terror

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Not too long ago we were discussing (two of us were anyway) EG&G as another Carlyle Group holding that warranted more investigation. One EG&G-related story is like something out of the X-Files (an analogy that comes frequently to mind when you start researching the Carlyle Group). Apparently thei

Re: US tax dollars NOT at work (was re: Nader)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
You might ask, if IT Group has so much trouble filling the work it's been contracted for, how in the freak does it get so many contracts. I wish I had no idea, though knowing what I know about Carlyle Group holdings, it seems pretty obvious: insider connections, perhaps even phone calls from forme

US tax dollars NOT at work (was re: Nader)

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
I'm sure Sawicky will want to discuss the House of Harkonnen or the BEIC or something, but just to back up my point about the overall inefficiencies of letting companies fill government services, at least the American way, let's just start with Carlyle Group's IT Group (recently sold to Shaw Group

Re: Margolis on the tail wagging the dog

2002-04-16 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Sabri, Put me in the anti-NATO camp and I'd send Milosevich home to Serbia if it were up to me, since they could sort it out far better. I'd say using the sort of reasoning which props up US foreign policy and the use of its deadly power, Milosevic has not only argued his case well but won it. M