Re: Another Bush secret

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Jannuzi
--- Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't this come out quite some time ago? Gene Ian Murray wrote: [I've seen nothing in the US press on this. Anyone else?] Memo emerges to haunt president Maybe this particular memo is new news, but nothing I read in the article

Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Jannuzi
--- Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roach writes for Morgan Stanley he's a famous bear. So what did he get wrong about Asia? Mark I need his salary to make it worth my while to explain. I've been a bear on the US for the past 5 years but that didn't make me rich and famous

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Re: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Jones
At 03-11-02 12:27, you wrote: Seriously, do you think an investment bankers's analyst is ever going to be trustworthy? They survey the world only as takeover opportunities for their clients and for themselves. I'll look at the article again and go through it piece by piece (I've done this for

Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Jannuzi
You have to see it first as the tendentious propaganda that it is. And do you think you are going to get the good stuff free? What does he save for his clients who pay him? I've been discussing quite a bit the inaccuracies of a lot of this type of 'analysis' of Asia and Japan right here on this

Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Jannuzi
And now I remember this guy full well. Biff Delong always cites him at his always comic site. Former IMF plodder, writes somewhere between Krugman and Greenspan on the obscurity index. This is the guy who thinks the US dollar is overvalued because the US has large reported trade deficits. So

Carving up Iraq oil

2002-11-03 Thread ken hanly
Carve-up of oil riches begins US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter Beaumont and Faisal Islam Sunday November 3, 2002 The Observer The leader of the London-based Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi, has met executives of three US oil multinationals to negotiate

Re: Iam Murray re Uneven Development

2002-11-03 Thread Hari Kumar
Ian: Thanks - very sharp reminders of what is really going on. I was recently a programme grant reviewer for an RFA from the NIH on reduction of racial disparities in maternal child health inequities. 5 times approximately $1.5 million were to be awarded Hari

RE: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Jones
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-pen-l;galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of Charles Jannuzi Sent: 03 November 2002 13:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:31794] Re: Roach on Asia You have to see it first as the tendentious propaganda that it is. no

Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Jannuzi
Because Asia is not shot. Japan is still the technological innovator, and Malaysia, by telling people like Roach where to go, has held its own. So this guy was a US equity bear. Nothing original in that. So he is down on Asia--most at the investment banks have been so since 1997. He does not face

interview with Lula

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
What was the biggest turning point in your life? I ate bread for the first time in my life when I was seven years old. Until then, I drank black coffee and mixed flour in the coffee and porridge for breakfast. In those days, a lot of children starved before reaching the age of one. I managed to

Re: It's about oil. Period.

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carve-up of oil riches begins US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter Beaumont and Faisal Islam Sunday November 3, 2002 The Observer The leader of the London-based Iraqi National Congress,

Mike Davis collection

2002-11-03 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, Nov. 3, 2002 'Dead Cities': Jeremiah With a MacArthur Grant By JOHN SUTHERLAND DEAD CITIES And Other Tales. By Mike Davis. Illustrated. 432 pp. New York: The New Press. $27.95. How to classify Mike Davis? Is he the Cassandra of our age, prophesying disasters to which we, like the

It's about oil. Period.

2002-11-03 Thread Louis Proyect
Focus: Iraq Carve-up of oil riches begins US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter Beaumont and Faisal Islam Sunday November 3, 2002 The Observer The leader of the London-based Iraqi

Japan

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nb20021104a1.htm BUSINESS INSIGHTS DEFENDING 'UNIQUE' JAPAN America's way not always the best way, economists say By AKEMI NAKAMURA Staff writer Although U.S. and British-style capitalism has prevailed throughout the world, Japan should fight

Re: Re: Another Bush secret

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Eugene Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:03 PM Subject: [PEN-L:31789] Re: Another Bush secret Didn't this come out quite some time ago? Gene === The smoking memo is new. Ian

Re: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Jones
At 03-11-02 15:22, you wrote: Because Asia is not shot. There is a major and chronic deflationary crisis in Japan. Asia may not be shot, but this crisis is very real, is it not? Mark

Re: RE: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to see it first as the tendentious propaganda that it is. no doubt it is, but what in this instance is the propaganda in aid of? He is absically saying Asia minus China is shot, and Chinese growth + US weakness is

Re: Re: RE: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Jones
At 03-11-02 19:45, you wrote: There seems to be a consensus among US bears of a nationalist bent to say, in effect, yeah our country's a mess but the rest of the planet is in even worse shape so keep that money comin' to our shores. Ian Is this also an argument in favour of ignoring

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [PEN-L:31808] Re: Re: RE: Re: Roach on Asia At 03-11-02 19:45, you wrote: There seems to be a consensus among US bears of a nationalist bent to say, in

Japan, again

2002-11-03 Thread Ian Murray
[NYTimes] November 3, 2002 Japan Fears U.S. Is Preying on Weak Economy By JAMES BROOKE TOKYO, Nov. 2 - Back when Pete Wilson became governor of California a decade ago, people here used to say that the real estate value of the Imperial Palace grounds in central Tokyo was higher than the

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Roach on Asia

2002-11-03 Thread Mark Jones
At 03/11/2002 20:11, you wrote: Right, 'but' the other shoe that keeps the deflation from becoming a big black hole is US imports from the region and the $1billion + a day comin' in as well. If the rate of return for Asian investors is higher in the US than in their own region, why increase

Re: Carving up Iraq oil

2002-11-03 Thread Chris Burford
At 03/11/02 08:12 -0800, you wrote: Carve-up of oil riches begins US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter Beaumont and Faisal Islam Sunday November 3, 2002 The Observer The leader of the London-based Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi, has met executives of

Trotsky and John Dewey

2002-11-03 Thread Chris Burford
At 01/11/02 17:21 -0500, you wrote: Devine, James wrote: so are you saying that Leon Trotsky should have rejected any connection with John Dewey, because he was the leader of liberal pragmatism? Yes Louis Proyect Why? Chris Burford

Re: Trotsky and John Dewey

2002-11-03 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Burford wrote: Why? This was a joke, as was the onion.com article that you commented on solemnly the other week. -- Louis Proyect www.marxmail.org

Preliminary results of the Turkish elections

2002-11-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
I am sure all members of PEN-L are very much interested in knowing the preliminary election results in Turkey. But what the heck! With 75% of the votes counted, the Islamist AKP (Justice and Development Party) is leading with 35%. The second and the only other party that will make it to the

RE: uneven development

2002-11-03 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31788] uneven development -- this explains why the dorms (colleges) at Yale are surrounded by moats. Jim Next door to Yale, the bastion of privilege that turns out the land's leaders, lies a tent city of America's poor, huddled masses. Ed Vulliamy

Re: File identifies the MyGames directory for

2002-11-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Lou, you have a virus that sent this to pen-l. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: File identifies the MyGames directory for: Virus warning

2002-11-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Lou's computer has sent a virus to the list. Do not open it. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Turkish election result: no intention to challenge the world

2002-11-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Final result: AKP (Islamists) got 361 and CHP (turd-wayists) got 177 seats in a 550 seats parliament. The remaining 12 seats went to independents. Islamists (but not fundamentalists) will form the government. Among other things, this is one more nail in the coffin of the turd-way, in particular,