Re: [Fwd: solidarity with muslim peoples]

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-03-03 09:52 -0800, Michael wrote: In United States, one percentage point increase in the unemployment rate has a significant impact on encouraging crime. Parenthetically, I wonder if anybody has done some sort of cost benefit study on this subject. I understand that in the Muslim

Re: UN-Gate

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Burford
I note this story got did not score highly in newsvalue points in the UK, and scored presumably even less in the US. What a lot that has to say about the assumptions of world politics. Let us just hope that the French and Russians made full use of it in canvassing opinion on the Security

Re: Re: Re: RE: Stiglitz on Dubya's tax plan

2003-03-04 Thread dsquared
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Eugene Coyle wrote: But for tax purposes, corporations (and individuals) keep a different set of books, using the fastest allowable depreciation rate. Who cares about the true rate? Neoclassical economists, but then again, who gives a fuck what they think? dd

In Sacramento, Angela Y. Davis to Speak on Women, Race and Class

2003-03-04 Thread Seth Sandronsky
March 4, 2003 News Release For more information: Call John Rowntree, (916) 446-1758 P.O. Box 160406 Sacramento, CA 95816 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marxistschool.org In Sacramento, Angela Y. Davis to Speak on Women, Race and Class Angela Y. Davis will deliver the third anniversary lecture for the

Re: The real Gene Coyle

2003-03-04 Thread Nomiprins
In a message dated 3/4/2003 1:46:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cost is to the rate payers, although tax payers will pay a small amount. Aren't the rate payers (beyond corporate users who will probably deduct higher expenses) the same people that pay taxes, just

Re: Re: It's not over in Turkey-the vote/military/politicalpersecution

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Zarembka
Thanks, Ahmet. Two further questions: Is it correct that the vote is confidential from the Turkish people, but not the political leadership (which means that they know whom to pressure, but the people don't who would be pressured and who may cave in)? Second, I have Turkish students in one of

RE: Re: The real Gene Coyle

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35272] Re: The real Gene Coyle That's a point that Jackie Goldberg made, too. But Michael Perelman asked about the extent to which the Enron-et al-engendered energy emergency effected the California state budget. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Rick Mercer says, Sorry America

2003-03-04 Thread W.R. Needham
X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:14:56 -0500 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: David Seljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rick Mercer says, Sorry America Status: Courtesy of Rick Mercer from This Hour Has 22 Minutes CBC Television: On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like

Re: Re: The real Gene Coyle

2003-03-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
Nomi: Yes. There is probably some shifting of the burden -- but I'm not sure which way. I don't know enough -- anything, really -- about how corporations get taxed vs how much they will pay in electric bills. My guess is that the rich will come out ahead, but I'm not sure. The very

Hungry for Terror Suspects in UK

2003-03-04 Thread k hanly
Voices in the Wilderness UK (www.voicesuk.org ) Press release Tuesday March 4th 10.40 am 0845 458 2564/ 0794 783 9992 Anti war activist put on suspected terror list for sending food to Jack Straw A peace activist has allegedly been placed on a suspected terrorist list after sending a

consumers strapped in Japan Korea?

2003-03-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
I read two items in English language papers when recently in Korea and Japan: In Japan, personal bankrupty is rising -- previously not a recourse there, as I understood the item. In Korea, credit card delinquency is rising. Credit card use in Korea is only recently (five years or so?)

Re: Re: Re: It's not over in Turkey-the vote/military/politicalpersecution

2003-03-04 Thread e. ahmet tonak
Paul Zarembka wrote: Thanks, Ahmet. Two further questions: Is it correct that the vote is confidential from the Turkish people, but not the political leadership (which means that they know whom to pressure, but the people don't who would be pressured and who may cave in)? It seems correct;

fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: fascism? [was: RE: [PEN-L:35276] Rick Mercer says, Sorry America] W.R. Needham's message ends with a quote: Fascism should be more properly called corporatism, since it is the merger of state and corporate power. Benito Mussolini Just a couple of days ago, I had a conversation with

RE: Re: Re: The real Gene Coyle

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35277] Re: Re: The real Gene Coyle one thing is that the burden on the rate-payers of the high cost of electricity is likely to encourage resistance to tax hikes which makes the upcoming legislative train-wreck (the collision of anti-tax-hike GOPsters, anti-services-cut

RE: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Tom Kruse
Jim D notes, ... but pen-l is the right place for quibbling. If I remember correctly, the words corporation and corporate had a different meaning for Mussolini than it does today. He was referring to tripartite organizations of capital, labor, and government designed to smooth over social

spies and whispers

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: spies and whispers from SLATE: The Los Angeles Times leads with a scoop: The Pentagon is planning to create its own corps of spies around the world. The plan hasn't been implemented yet, but could eventually include hundreds of spooks who could theoretically focus on the kind of combat

Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Michael Perelman
I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique. Hoover had a similar version. Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly different. On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 08:19:47AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: [was: RE:

RE: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35286] Re: fascism? Michael Perelman writes: I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique. Hoover had a similar version. Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly different. The corporatism

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique. Hoover had a similar version. Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly different.

Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread W.R. Needham
Title: Re: fascism? This is available through my web page: From: Power versus the Public Good: The Conundrum of the Individual and Society 1966 Hagey Lecture by John Ralston Saul There is a whole new neo-corporatist school around. There are a lot of people, I don't know whether they are

RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35288] Re: Re: fascism? I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique. Hoover had a similar version. Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly different. Ian writes: A quick

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: [PEN-L:35286] Re: fascism? I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. == Present political

Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: [PEN-L:35290] RE: Re: Re: fascism? I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. Also, the Italian idea was not

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35292] Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism? I wrote: Ian, isn't that from the journal published by Holocaust deniers? (But then again, who would be better to describe fascism than fascists?) Exactly. James Whisker's reading of the rise of Italian fascism dovetails pretty closely

New Book BEHIND THE INVASION OF IRAQ

2003-03-04 Thread Renee Pendergrass
Dear Educator/Activist: Monthly Review Press is pleased to announce the publication ofBehind the Invasion of Iraq by the Research Unit for Political Economy. Thisbook offers an incisive account of thecurrent US strategic agendafor Iraq and its implications for the rest of the world.

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
An interesting novel about Italy in the '30s when Mussolini was taking over Ethiopia is Christ Stopped at Eboli. Its description of the peasants' politics and occasional misdirected and fruitless violence evokes for me, somehow, today's USA. Gene Coyle Devine, James wrote: I wrote: Ian,

A view on Iraq war from Zambia

2003-03-04 Thread k hanly
US Pretext for Invading Iraq The Post (Lusaka) EDITORIAL March 4, 2003 Posted to the web March 4, 2003 Lusaka There's need to intelligently and honestly examine the United States' pretext for invading Iraq. We are being told Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction and as such poses a

Mussolini Dubya

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: Mussolini Dubya [was: RE: [PEN-L:35295] Re: Re: fascism?] An interesting novel about Italy in the '30s when Mussolini was taking over Ethiopia is Christ Stopped at Eboli. Its description of the peasants' politics and occasional misdirected and fruitless violence evokes for me,

Re: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread joanna bujes
The other great one is Fontamara by Ignazio Silone. Joanna At 12:46 PM 03/04/2003 -0800, you wrote: An interesting novel about Italy in the '30s when Mussolini was taking over Ethiopia is Christ Stopped at Eboli. Its description of the peasants' politics and occasional misdirected and

Turkish reversal appears likely

2003-03-04 Thread Marvin Gandall
A report in today's Financial Times indicates the Turkish government will likely succeed in reversing the past weekend's parliamentary vote denying basing rights to US troops for a northern Iraq front. The report says Recep Tayyip Erdogan, leader of the ruling Justice and Development party,

Notre dame

2003-03-04 Thread Michael Perelman
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2003/03/03/local.20030303-sbt-MARS-A1- +e_great.sto -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: It's not over in Turkey-the vote/military/political persecution

2003-03-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ahmet wrote: Re: Turkish military-whether it was weakened: No. Because it did have opportunity to openly support the government's proposal a day before the voting through the National Security Council meeting and it chose not to. I object Ahmet. Your assessment sounds no different than that

Re: Re: It's not over in Turkey-the vote/military/political persecution

2003-03-04 Thread eatonak
I am a bit puzzled by Sabri's identification of my observations with the FT's piece. Neither the quoted sections nor the entire assessments (i.e. FT's and mine) is saying the same thing. Moreover, I am not fully sure what exactly Sabri's characterization of the assessment as .. pure and

Re: corporatizing the military redux

2003-03-04 Thread Michael Perelman
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/articles/0,15114,427948,00.html I found this article to be quite informative. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Turkish reversal appears likely

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-03-04 21:51 -0500, Marv Gandall wrote: A report in today's Financial Times indicates the Turkish government will likely succeed in reversing the past weekend's parliamentary vote denying basing rights to US troops for a northern Iraq front. But what if the Kurds threaten to fight? Kurds'

Ivanov unhelpful to Brits

2003-03-04 Thread Chris Burford
Yesterday in London Igor Ivanov could not have been more unhelpful to the British government in the nicest possible way. Even before waiting to be asked, he told his press conference that they might ask him whether he has discussed a Russian veto with Jack Straw, his opposite number. No, he

A complaint

2003-03-04 Thread Louis Proyect
Dear Professor of Management Rex Adams, Unless there are two Rex Adams floating around the Duke Fuqua School of Business, I must assume that you are the very same Rex Adams identified as the Chairman of the Board of Directors on the PBS website. I am writing to let you know that as one of

Speed bumps

2003-03-04 Thread Louis Proyect
The Independent, 04 March 2003 US hits roadblock in push to war By Rupert Cornwell in Washington America admitted yesterday that the war due to begin as early as next week might have to be put back by at least a month because of Turkey's refusal to allow US ground troops to deploy there. The