Re: Complexity

2003-06-16 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-16 15:34 -0700, you quoted: > An economic system is dynamically complex if its deterministic > endogenous processes do not lead it asymptotically to a fixed > point, a limit cycle, or an explosion. This sounds like a classic statement based on well established chaos theory but trying t

WTO--hypocrisy, yada yada yada

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
[speaking of methodological nationalism...] The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com Europe's trade hypocrisy: The West pays to keep the rest poor Philip Bowring IHT Tuesday, June 17, 2003 Europe's trade hypocrisy GENEVA The Doha round of trade negotiations is rapidly approaching a c

US/Mexico: what's the beef?

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
June 16, 2003, 9:54PM Border trade ties coming undone U.S. seeks decision in beef, rice dispute By JENALIA MORENO and DAVID IVANOVICH Houston Chronicle Trade ties between the United States and Mexico grew more tense Monday as the Bush administration turned to the World Trade Organization to settle

Re: Fwd: FW: Sad News about NICHD/NIH: The Deconstruction of America's Sci entific

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Fwd: FW: Sad News about NICHD/NIH: The Deconstruction of America's Sci entific > I am sorry that nobody has picked up on Martin's post, which

Re: Fwd: FW: Sad News about NICHD/NIH: The Deconstruction of America's Sci entific

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Perelman
I am sorry that nobody has picked up on Martin's post, which just arrived tonight. I doesn't matter if the second coming is going to occur in a year or so, but it if does not... Is this happening with all government supported science? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State Univ

Re: Falsifiability and the law of value

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Perelman
I have not been online for several days -- my server has been down. I am now wading through a flood of e-mails in random order, so forgive me if this has been said before. I agree with Andrew. What happened in the late 19th C. was that tech. changed devalued existing capital before costs could b

neuroeconomics redux

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
[NYTimes] June 17, 2003 Brain Experts Now Follow the Money By SANDRA BLAKESLEE People are efficient, rational beings who tirelessly act in their own self-interest. They make financial decisions based on reason, not emotion. And naturally, most save money for that proverbial rainy day. Right? Wel

Re: US auto industry to die?

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Perelman
I thought that the US auto industry could not survive on its own. The truck/suv industry is doing ok, but as offshore companies jump into that market. Also, the auto companies could look into their ad costs as well. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 9

conflicts of interests

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
[who wudda thunk it?] Dividend Tax Cut Will Benefit Many Members Of House, Reports Show Some Representatives May Save Thousands By Juliet Eilperin Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, June 17, 2003; Page A03 Dozens of House members stand to save thousands of dollars thanks to the dividend tax

the scramble for Africa[n] oil

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
[fear of corruption? please.] Scramble for Africa Fear of corruption and chaos in oil rush Charlotte Denny, economics correspondent Tuesday June 17, 2003 The Guardian Washington's determination to find an alternative energy source to the Middle East is leading to a new oil rush in sub-

Re: Weapons hunters watch films

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Perelman
Of course, the US will not let anybody check out its mass graves in Afghan. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Weapons hunters watch films

2003-06-16 Thread Fred B. Moseley
Hi Barkley, Your question about "mass graves" is a very good one. I hope someone has some more information. Fred On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Barkley Rosser wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:02:05 -0400 > From: Barkley Rosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: PEN-L list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL

Re: frontline: home | PBS

2003-06-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Hoover wrote: pbs apparently has policy prohibiting persons being interviewed for broadcast from using terms 'capitalist' and 'capitalism', reference to 'business elite' is ok, info comes from michael zweig who was recently subjected to said policy... michael hoover That's an outrageous p

Re: Complexity

2003-06-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
> Sabri Oncu wrote: > >> Being an old-fashioned thermodynamist trained in the Truesdell >> school and specialized in the partial integro-differential >> equations of the hyperbolic kind, > > And you have a problem with Western rationality? > > Doug Hey! This was exactly my problem. I have been a

Re: Runaway help desks

2003-06-16 Thread Devine, James
Gene writes: >  But if laying off checkers and baggers counts as productivity improvement, shouldn't the nominal prices at the market be adjusted upward to take into account that the customer is now doing the work?<   FWIW, I had an article on this in CHALLENGE magazine, March-April 2001. The CP

EU sanctions against Iran and Burma

2003-06-16 Thread Chris Burford
While we watch the hegemonic lead taken by the US, it is worth noting that the EU has chimed in to say that Iran should comply with a more vigorous atomic impection regime to prent it transfering from civilian to military use of nuclear material. And that sanctions are a possibility. Further that t

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
    I was referring to the gold that gilded churches in Spain. That in Holland largely went into the banks. Barkley Rosser - Original Message - From: andie nachgeborenen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Hobsbawn on the Am

Re: Kids and Uncle Karl

2003-06-16 Thread Drewk
Imagine, a 4-year-old who could invert an A matrix.  -Original Message-From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of andie nachgeborenenSent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Kids and Uncle Karl The globe spinning and poin

More serious Iraq resistance

2003-06-16 Thread Chris Burford
BBC" Newsnight, Monday night had two items from Iraq. 1) Interview with Fedayeen in Baghdad where attacks on US military have spread from the Sunni triangle to the north west of the city. Man appearing on camera with face pixilated out, holding a grenade. Plus report of a fedayeen document which a

- 12 K art in Britain

2003-06-16 Thread Chris Burford
Archaeologists have discovered the earliest known example of prehistoric cave art in Britain. It consists of 12,000-year-old engravings of birds and an ibex carved into the stone walls at Creswell Crags, Derbyshire. In the 19th Century a 12,000-year-old bone needle was found there. Bahn, Pettitt

Re: Runaway help desks

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Hi Sabri -- >I have nothing against the "emancipation" of humans from mundane >tasks Ken but the fact that the cashiers and bagboys of the >nation can't be relocated to Indonesia is a problem, is it not? Yes it is a problem. A "good" problem. "So what now?" should be the slogan of every non-Yanq

Re: Complexity

2003-06-16 Thread Doug Henwood
Sabri Oncu wrote: Being an old-fashioned thermodynamist trained in the Truesdell school and specialized in the partial integro-differential equations of the hyperbolic kind, And you have a problem with Western rationality? Doug

Complexity

2003-06-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Dear Barkley, Being an old-fashioned thermodynamist trained in the Truesdell school and specialized in the partial integro-differential equations of the hyperbolic kind, I never had a chance to learn about complexity theories. Would you kindly enlighten me what this from your paper "Complexity in

Re: Shleifer

2003-06-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
too bad bush blew the surplus, so there's no money for transition. I don't see how they can do it now. mbs -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Barkley Rosser Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Shleifer Mat,

Re: Runaway help desks

2003-06-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
> But nothing wrong with losing the cashiers and bagboys > of the nation. They can't be relocated to Indonesia. > > Ken. I have nothing against the "emancipation" of humans from mundane tasks Ken but the fact that the cashiers and bagboys of the nation can't be relocated to Indonesia is a problem,

Re: frontline: home | PBS

2003-06-16 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Good to know that it's still a bad word. jksDoug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Hoover wrote:>pbs apparently has policy prohibiting persons being interviewed for>broadcast from using terms 'capitalist' and 'capitalism', reference to>'business elite' is ok, info comes from michael zweig

Re: Kids and Uncle Karl

2003-06-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Now that we are at kids' stories, we were driving from San Francisco to Berkeley one evening. The traffic was too slow and we were bored, so we staretd playing some verbal games and somehow my then six year old son started to ask questions about the Bush family. Berkeley is an interesting place as

Re: frontline: home | PBS

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Michael writes: >pbs apparently has policy prohibiting persons being >interviewed for broadcast from using terms 'capitalist' >and 'capitalism', reference to 'business elite' is ok, >info comes from michael zweig who was recently >subjected to said policy... Assuming that is true (and I have no e

Re: frontline: home | PBS

2003-06-16 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Hoover wrote: pbs apparently has policy prohibiting persons being interviewed for broadcast from using terms 'capitalist' and 'capitalism', reference to 'business elite' is ok, info comes from michael zweig who was recently subjected to said policy... michael hoover That's an outrageous p

Re: 'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles

2003-06-16 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] 'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles what crap! but what else can we expect from a Straussian? He attributes a conspiracy theory to an undefined "left" without any quotations from anyone. As far as I know, no-one says that the Straussians are running the Bush admini

Re: frontline: home | PBS

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/11/03 03:16PM >>> What they have done to Frontline is a fucking disgrace. During the 1980s they had hard-hitting investigative pieces on the contra war, etc. Since 9/11 it has basically functioned as an outlet of the Pentagon with one hysterical report after another on "ter

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. jksBarkley Rosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:     I was referring to the gold that gilded churches in Spain. That in Holland largely went into the banks. Barkley Rosser - Original Message - From: andie nachgeborenen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday

Re: Shleifer

2003-06-16 Thread andie nachgeborenen
this JEP also has an articleby people on Bush's social security commission whoare pushing the two-tier, de facto privatization scenario.The fiscal balance for social security will get better after2029, according to them. Wowee.* * * Gee, can I have their crystal ball? Mine tells me that by that

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
    I was referring to the gold that gilded churches in Spain. That in Holland largely went into the banks. Barkley Rosser - Original Message - From: andie nachgeborenen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Hobsbawn on the Am

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread andie nachgeborenen
Of course, in the Dutch Reformation, they just paintedor or stripped off all that gold leaf. Being Dutch, they probablys tripped it and recycled it. jksBarkley Rosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah yes, but then much of the gold that flowedinto Spain flowed back out to another of itsunderlings, Holl

Re: Shleifer

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
Mat, Don't know whether to thank you or not, although I doubt the committee will take the nomination very seriously. I note that this JEP also has an article by people on Bush's social security commission who are pushing the two-tier, de facto privatization scenario. The fiscal balance for s

Re: Shleifer

2003-06-16 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I nominate Barkley to edit the JEL. Btw, Heilbroner use to say that the only thing the Journal of Economic Perspectives lacks is...perspectives. mf -Original Message- From: Barkley Rosser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L]

Shleifer

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
I just got my latest copy of the Journal of Economic Perspectives (JEP). That is what Andrei Shleifer is editor of, not the JEL. Guess they are still looking for an editor of the JEL. Barkley Rosser

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Peter Dorman
This is a difficult question. The global justice movement has, in general, been willing to align itself with old-fashioned protectionist interests in the US. They have more money than we do and more access to media and politicians. Activists recognize that the interests involved are fundamentall

Re: Kids and Uncle Karl

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
JKS wrote: >Years ago I was stuck in traffic due to roadwork >with my daughter, then aged about 4 I am going to report you for child exploitation... doing roadwork with your daughter. No wonder you are a rightwingsexistbigotoppressordupe. Ken. -- >From the contagion of the world's slow stain h

Re: Runaway help desks

2003-06-16 Thread Eugene Coyle
Jim Devine, in a post "Hope springs eternal" quoted Everett Ehrlich, a former undersecretary of Commerce in the Clinton administration pointing out the wonders of productivity: But what about productivity? Doesn't it force prices to fall? Sure, productivity allows firms to sell for less, but

Re: Kids and Uncle Karl

2003-06-16 Thread andie nachgeborenen
The globe spinning and pointing out Iraq didn't really register, nortalk of oil reserves, nor power and influence... But oppression did. (Ididn't use that word, but she grasped it.)* * * Years ago I was stuck in traffic due to roadwork with my daughter, then aged about 4 (now 13), and to pass th

Kids and Uncle Karl

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
In thread "[PEN-L] economics and sociology" JKS wrote: > My 10 yr old son asked me yesterday, What kind of scientist > was Karl Marx? We had been talking about Galileo, Newton, > etc. And German idealism ("They sort of believe the world > is like the Matrix, right, Dad?") (He made me insert the >

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
Ah yes, but then much of the gold that flowed into Spain flowed back out to another of its underlings, Holland, who eventually went for its independence, all the gold that did not end up gilding churches that is. Barkley Rosser - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL

Re: Empire and Current Account

2003-06-16 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Ellen, I asked someone who does stuff in this area and he said that trade with the colonies was counted as foreign trade in all the cases he knows of, but some of the European countries in their statistical yearbooks that he has seen divided foreign trade into intra-empire trade and other trade. Ma

'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles (I) Why not blame the war on a sinister clique which has duped the public and even the President? Clifford Orwin National Post Monday, June 16, 2003 Hardly a day passes now when I don't wake up to read about myself in the papers. I've become one of t

Re: Weapons hunters watch films

2003-06-16 Thread Barkley Rosser
Actually rather than comment on this issue directly, now that it is becoming increasingly clear to anyone paying attention (and here in the US Fox TV is trying very hard to focus peoples' attention on important stuff like the Laci Peterson murder), that both the WMD and al Qaeda-link arguments

Slicing off the top

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Walking thru the Art Gallery of Ontario with a friend, she commented on the wall of contributors as we were leaving. I said, off-handedly, it was a "wall of people with too much money." She said it was _because_ of these people that we had just enjoyed a couple hours. I said that was technically tr

Re: Runaway help desks

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Sabri wrote: >>Today, I went to Home Depot to buy some halogen lamps. After >>I picked up the lamps, I proceeded to the check out area and >>came across this automated cashier there: You scan your own >>items, swipe your credit card and all. >> >>What will happen to the human cashiers if one of th

Sex.com and monopoly

2003-06-16 Thread Kenneth Campbell
The biggest legal defence to the legendary ineptitude of VeriSign (nee NSI) has been this notion that there is no intellectual property in a domain name. It's a license. I guess that is a way of saying it is a monopoly and not liable for damages for incompetence on the part of the license granter.

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread dsquared
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:51:10 -0400, Michael Pollak wrote: > I thought Spain was the very model of an empire that > sucked in so much > gold that it deindustrialized itself. (In early modern > sense of > industry.) H yes and this was the one that worried me too. But I think that from an (utter

Re: Empire and Current Account

2003-06-16 Thread Peter Dorman
But I think the idea is not to pay very much for them -- certainly less than they pay for what they get from you. And in capitalist empires there is also the issue of the Keynesian demand constraint. The other question is interesting. Throws a new light on the GNP v GDP business... Peter Ellen F

From Maoism to Paris Match

2003-06-16 Thread Louis Proyect
Je suis un superstar With his movie-star lifestyle, celebrity friends and best-selling books, writer-philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy is the darling of the French chattering classes. But can 'BHL' be serious? Gaby Wood Sunday June 15, 2003 The Observer When I arrive at Bernard-Henri Lévy's sumptu

hope springs eternal

2003-06-16 Thread Devine, James
Title: hope springs eternal This former leading singer of "Red Shadow," the economics rock'n'roll band, may turn out to be right that deflation won't happen, but he totally ignores the fact that low interest rates encourages not only spending but increased private-sector indebtedness, which no

Empire and Current Account

2003-06-16 Thread Ellen Frank
This reminds me of a question I have long had to which one of you out there may have an answer. How did imperial Europe account for trade with colonies in the 1800s? Was Congolese rubber sent to Belgium counted as a Belgian import or was it treated as internal trade within Belgium? I would think

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What should US leftists do about this contradiction -- the > contradiction that has been ignored by the US branch of the so-called > "global justice movement"? > -- > Yoshie == Take a couple of steps bey

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
June 11, 2003 After Winning the War The Empire Expands Wider and Still Wider By ERIC HOBSBAWM But the global empire of Britain, the first industrial nation, worked with the grain of the globalisation that the development of the British economy did so much to advance. The British empire was a syst

Edward Said: A Road Map to Where?

2003-06-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* LRB | Vol. 25 No. 12 dated 19 June 2003 | Edward Said A Road Map to Where? Edward Said ...Bush's vision (the word strikes a weird dreamy note in what is meant to be a hard-headed, definitive peace plan) is supposed to be realised by the restructuring of the Palestinian Authority, the elimin

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread Michael Pollak
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Gray (not the author of "Men are from Mars") thinks that the really > strange thing about the current situation is that the USA is the first > empire to be running a structural current account deficit rather than a > surplus. I rather think that

Re: Hobsbawn on the American Empire

2003-06-16 Thread dsquared
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:48:41 -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote: > > June 11, 2003 > > After Winning the War > The Empire Expands Wider and Still Wider > By ERIC HOBSBAWM > > The present world situation is quite unprecedented. John Gray (not the author of "Men are from Mars") thinks that the really strange