There is a small but interesting literature on the economics of love,
altruism, morality, and so on. My Beyond Profit and Self-Interest,
chapter 6, has a short summary with bibliographic
references.
For example:
Adam Smith, Theory of Moral Sentiments
Kenneth Boulding, The Economy of Love and
1) On the global level, the U.S. wields control
over the oil wells for some time to come and this would place it in a better
competitive position vis-à-vis partners in the Western World.
But is that really true ? My understanding is that
the US controls SOME of the oil resource but not ALL
I didn't catch the earlier part of this thread, but what scale are we talking here?
The world's largest oil producer is Russia.
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From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:41:45 +0100
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Will the oil run
I didn't catch the earlier part of this thread, but what scale are we
talking here? The world's largest oil producer is Russia.
World scale. I get back to you about this later. I got my times mixed up and
came to early this morning for my appointment, tut tut. Got to go now,
J.
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I didn't catch the earlier part of this thread, but what scale are we
talking here? The world's largest oil producer is Russia.
The largest average daily producer, but not the largest proven reserves
and not the largest exporter.
Michael
Yeah. No. 2 exporter though. All Russian oil profits are from exports.
The largest average daily producer, but not the largest proven reserves
and not the largest exporter.
Michael
Proven reserves is the catch phrase, The Gulf and Iraq have the highest so far. But let me make myself clear. In managing the decline it needs to control more oil.I do not think that the depletion story is scaremongering... especially when seen with the optic of the international division of
LA Times, March 15, 2004
THE NATION
Technically Speaking, Still a Tech Hub
The Silicon Valley remains a land of headquarters, but much of the work
has shifted to cheaper labor markets overseas.
By Joseph Menn, Times Staff Writer
SAN JOSE Outside the gray ranch house in a quiet and well-tended
more important is oil profits. Large volume can easily be cancelled out by high costs.
Jim D
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From: Chris Doss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 3/15/2004 4:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Will
I wanted to add that water matters for the poor but not to the rich. Water is drying for the poor, it has been and will continue to get further polluted and dry. but that will not hit profits it might deccrease the work force by somke brazen law of wages. but that alas happens for many other
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Of course, it is unsual for you westerners who forgot
the closeness touching one another brings out but I
don't blame you. It is just sad that you don't know
how to touch and kiss each other except when you have
sex.
the westerners don't come close to us indians when it
The Socialist Party victory in Spain has sent political shock waves around
the world, changed the European power balance, and is ominous news for
George Bush, according to an analysis in todays Asia Times.
The election has drawn Spain closer to France and Germany, further isolating
Tony Blair
Marvin Gandall wrote:
A large turnout of Democratic Party and independent American voters angry at
having been lied to about Iraq haunts the Bush administration, and the
Spanish result will do little to allay its foreboding.
I am not sure what point is being made here. The SP in Spain was opposed
I don't disagree with your main point about the effect on Iraq of a Kerry
victory. I don't think it's any more likely to lead to a US troop withdrawal
than Bush's reelection. In both cases, I think the withdrawal of US forces
will depend either on much larger numbers of US casualties or,
Marvin Gandall wrote:
means -- any US government, including a Green Party one, would be compelled
to respond this way, if allowed to come to power through the electoral
system.
The notion of a Green President in the USA is so beyond the realm of
possibility without concomitant mass mobilizations
OK. That's hillarious.
Joanna
ravi wrote:
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Of course, it is unsual for you westerners who forgot
the closeness touching one another brings out but I
don't blame you. It is just sad that you don't know
how to touch and kiss each other except when you have
sex.
the westerners
Hey, we agree. :)
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Spanish spectre
Marvin Gandall wrote:
means -- any US government, including a Green Party one, would be
compelled
to respond
From Microsoft's SLATE magazine:
We shall strengthen the multiparty system. We shall
strengthen civil society and do everything to uphold media
freedom, Putin said after a campaign in which he arrested a
political opponent, solidified his personal control of
Parliament, refused to debate his
Kerry's positions are certainly mixed to put the best spin on them but he
does oppose a national missile defence system a truly dangerous boondoggle
bound to convince other coutries that there is no alternative but some type
of arms race to develop means to counteract such defences. Of course some
From the transitional constitution and UN resolutions...cheers Ken Hanly
Consistent with Iraq¹s status as a sovereign state, and with its desire to
join other nations in helping to maintain peace and security and fight
terrorism during the transitional period, the Iraqi Armed Forces will be a
US complains about outsourcing while Canadians seem oblivious to the fact
that our socialist health care system is busy outsourcing some management
functions to private US firms...The Liberal BC govt. is planning to
outsource administration of the health plan to either Maximus or IBM both
US
From: Bernard Pollack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:58 PM
Subject: Worker Fired for Trying to Form a Union
This is a really important campaign. Please click the link and help
this local worker. Forward to friends.
-Bernie.
Stephen White and his co-workers at Comcast in
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Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 10:31 PM
Subject: Action a Day to Close the SOA!
ACTION A DAY TO CLOSE THE SOA!
***Raise Your VoiceCommit to Action Organize for Power
With the anticipation of a congressional vote on HR 1258 later this year,
the 2004
Personally, I often think that love is smoking your last cigarette, and
knowing that you'll never smoke again, because your are faced with something
fantastic (or have something fantastic in your face) which makes that you
don't want to smoke anymore.
My hunch is that human awareness is best
* Ralph Nader Courts Latino, Black Vote
[Click on the link The Tavis Smiley Show audio to listen to Nader.]
Feb. 24, 2004
Republicans cheered and Democrats winced when consumer advocate Ralph
Nader announced that he'd throw his hat into the 2004 Presidential
race -- this time, as an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/04 9:49 AM
Unfortunately revolutionary socialism has no such equivalent venue. In
the early 1990s, the Guardian newspaper and MR sponsored an event but it
was never repeated. The Guardian newspaper would soon fold and MR
appeared to lack interest in building up circles
Marvin Gandall wrote:
Politics
is a process, after all.
Tautologically true -- except that the word too often points to a
_smooth_ process. And that is quite false. The word is _also_ apt to
suggest that the direction of the process is, _necessarily_, forward,
and that also is false.
In the latest copy of Revu (p. 8), Henk Willem Smits mentions that KPMG,
Fortis and Philips are supporting the Bush campaign, contributing $400,000,
$119,000 and $34,000 respectively. KPMG said that the US branch had made an
autonomous decision. Likewise, Fortis said an independent decision was
Devine, James wrote:
The pictures are irony, not Stalin.
I wonder what the russian word for irony is and if the russian
contains the pun on iron/steel.
Carrol
Jim D.
Michael Hoover wrote:
maxist educational press (mep) folks - erwin marquit and some others in
and around cp - held several marxist scholars conferences in 80s and
90s, probably not
considered revolutionary socialist by 'real' revolutionary socialists
given party's thoroughly reformist character,
Note: The American Experience documentary on Emma Goldman airs on Mon.,
April 12. Check out the website
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/goldman/index.html for more information.]
Even Buttoned-Down PBS Gets Caught in the Wringer
By Lisa de Moraes
Thursday, March 11, 2004; Page C07
Viacom CEO Sumner
I guess an exposed female nipple to the US dept of Virtue and Vice is
equivalent to an exposed female face to the former Taliban dept of Virtue
and Vice..In both cases it seems the male equivalent is harmless to morals.
Just goes to show that the exposed female body is a moral threat in both
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/04 2:06 PM
Marquit was my first exposure to the whims of the academic left.
Although by no means as Olympian a figure as Wallerstein, he pulled the
same kind of stunt on me as Manny. I wrote a brief commentary on
Harvey Klehr's book on the CPUSA for a listserv (can't
Michael Hoover wrote:
my comment was not about individual/s per se but about meetings other
than scc, in any event, whatever your experience with him, marquit
hardly fits your academic left strawperson...
That's true. He's a physicist and a Stalinist--some combination!
same as fdr relying on cp,
February 12 2004 Cleavage Among the Voters? USA Today's poll on Jackson's
breast baring
We usually think that spotting an error in a professionally administered
poll takes some extra degree of training, or some knowledge of higher math.
But sometimes spotting a major problem in a poll published
Michael Hoover wrote:
i confess to not
knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism
Me either, and I wish someone would explain it to me. Armed takeover
of the White House and the New York Stock Exchange? Really, could
some self-identified RS clarify?
Doug
Michael Hoover wrote:
re. above persons, i've read them (most several times at least) and lots
of others as well, surely revolutionary socialism involves more than
reading list, how might these contribute to revolutionary socialism
today
It's interesting that all the authors cited are long dead.
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Observations on the Socialist Scholars Conference]
to my mind, RS involves a commitment to not just winning reformist (and defensive)
demands but also trying to promote the self-organization and collective consciousness
of the working class and other dominated groups in
Devine, James wrote:
to my mind, RS involves a commitment to not just winning reformist
(and defensive) demands but also trying to promote the
self-organization and collective consciousness of the working class
and other dominated groups in society, in order to progress from
reforms and defensive
We've got Stanley Aronowitz.
It's interesting that all the authors cited are long dead. They wrote in the
time when there were mass socialist parties and capitalism had little
legitimacy with the working class. Today things are very different. Do we
just quote the classics at the masses and
Max B. Sawicky wrote:
We've got Stanley Aronowitz.
Who got a mere 40,000 votes when he ran for governor of New York,
below the 50,000 threshold necessary to keep the Green Party on the
ballot.
Doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/04 3:34 PM
Michael Hoover wrote:
quoting myself:
In Chapter six, an NKVD document reports on communications between Earl
Browder, the head of the CPUSA, and Franklin Roosevelt. FDR
congratulates Browder and the CPUSA for conducting its political line
skillfully and
Isn't talk of revolutionary socialism today faintly
ridiculous? I mean, it can help make you feel
identified with certain traditions, heroes, heroines,
historical events -- probably practically it remains
what it was before the Fall, an statement taht one
puts one self as opposed to all those
Michael Hoover:
number of questions/suspicions about accuracy of nkvd documents, made up
stuff and the like...
Well, we're not exactly talking about espionage here. An allegation that
the CPUSA was hostile to electoral efforts to the left of the Democratic
Party is not exactly controversial.
Louis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/15/04 5:35 PM
Michael Hoover:
number of questions/suspicions about accuracy of nkvd documents, made
up
stuff and the like...
Well, we're not exactly talking about espionage here. An allegation that
the CPUSA was hostile to electoral efforts to the left of the Democratic
Title: Message
Appropro our discussion
oncorporations,I thought this might be of interest. Some
related webpages can be accessed via the links at the
bottom.
[]Peter
Hollings
Source: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Corporations/KnowEnemy_ITT.html
Know Thine Enemy
A Brief History of
saith I:
to my mind, RS involves a commitment to not just winning reformist
(and defensive) demands but also trying to promote the
self-organization and collective consciousness of the working class
and other dominated groups in society, in order to progress from
reforms and defensive
In this context, I think it worth noting that almost _all_ substantial
changes (for the better) under capitalism have originated as part of the
activity of various revolutionary tendencies. Briefly, Revolutionaries
make the best Reformers. This began to dawn on me about 30 years ago as
I was
Carrol:
In this context, I think it worth noting that almost _all_ substantial
changes (for the better) under capitalism have originated as part of the
activity of various revolutionary tendencies. Briefly, Revolutionaries
make the best Reformers.
This is an extremely important point. Every
Dear Pen-ers:
Recently I was in Saudi Arabia, realized how little I knew of what was
going on there regarding the dissident movements. I turn to you for help
in locating:
i) Good RECENT books on Saudi Arabia politics;
ii) After having talked to many Saudi women physicians, references
regarding
Jim wrote:
so that the dominated groups can dominate.
Dominate what, or what sense ? (if you like word puzzles and poetry, in
Dutch, dominate = domineren, cryptologically containing the words dom
(=dumb), dominee (=church minister), nee (=no), ren (=run). neren
is also close to nieren
I always took revolutionary socialism to mean the complete overthrow of
capitalism and its replacement by a mode of production that involves some
sort of socialised ownership of the means of production distribution and
exchange plus production on the basis of need not profit. Revolutionary
Michael Hoover wrote:
i confess to not knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism
Me either, and I wish someone would explain it to me. Armed takeover
of the White House and the New York Stock Exchange? Really, could
some self-identified RS clarify?
Doug
The first thing to do is to quit
what sense does it make to proclaim revolutionary
socialism today?
The estimable Ernest Mandel once drafted an article on revolutionary
politics in a non-revolutionary situation (he never published it I think),
and indeed there was a real question there which needed to be answered.
How
Revolutionary
socialism contrasts with reformist socialism that believes in changing
capitalism so as to socialise certain aspects of the system to distribute
wealth and power somewhat more equitably and tomake capitalism more
responsive to the needs of everyone and specifically the worst off
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From: Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i confess to not knowing what constitutes revolutionary socialism
Me either, and I wish someone would explain it to me. Armed takeover
of the White House and the New York Stock Exchange? Really, could
some self-identified RS
The Smell of Money: British Columbia's Gas Rush
By Shefa Siegel
CorpWatch
March 13, 2004
British Columbia -- Spring has yet to come to the
Peace River region, but signs of growth are
everywhere. On the steppes of northeastern British
Columbia, places with frontier names like Tumbler
Ridge,
--- k hanly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I always took revolutionary socialism to mean the
complete overthrow of
capitalism and its replacement by a mode of
production that involves some
sort of socialised ownership of the means of
production distribution and
exchange plus production on the
If what precedes is accurate at all, then the denial
by some on this
list of hope for the emergence of a revolutionary
socialist movement is
_also_ the denial of any hope for more than trivial
reforms for the
indefinite future. No revolutionary movement(s), no
substantial change
for the
At the risk of being boringly serious, I think you are almost
certainly right that music and dance much predate -30,000 years.
It is just that the earliest relics date from that time. Flutes and
drums would of course not survive.
It sounds right to me that music would be associated with speech
sometime ago i bought a CD from the damascus museum that is a take on the earliest recorded musical notes found on clay tablets near tell marry between syria and iraq.. it was ninawa, and it seems to have been palyed by berkely students in california. sepaking of syria, possibly the next war
Ho-hum.
From Microsoft's SLATE magazine:
We shall strengthen the multiparty system. We shall
strengthen civil society and do everything to uphold media
freedom, Putin said after a campaign in which he arrested a
political opponent,
How did Khodorkovsky become a political opponent? Are
The Russian word for irony is ironiya. The word for iron is zheleznoye. So no pun.
-Original Message-
From: Carrol Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:58:09 -0600
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] FW: Today's Papers: Putin
Devine, James wrote:
The pictures are
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